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What's your problem

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You can use ch(powdered) but it has a couple of issues, first you'll need some kind of reirculator in your tank to help keep it mixed. Second, you'll need to pay lots of close attention to rinsing as the ch mixture can and will create a haze on glass and siding.

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Oh, that sounds like a lot of trouble.

The reason I asked is because I have heard someone say something about pool shock and
I read it in an article, so figured why not ask?

 

 

Below is an online article that talked about it......

"There are other roof cleaner products that I could go through one by one and give you the pros and cons but they are used so rarely that it’s not worth the time to explain them, especially since I need to tell you about the one roof cleaning solution that I truly recommend. Yes, I’ve saved the best for last. To sum it up in a nutshell, the safest and most effective roof cleaning mixture is one that you can make yourself out of bleach (or chlorine), water, and liquid laundry detergent. You simply take some household bleach or liquid pool shock, mix in some water from the garden hose, and throw in a cup of liquid detergent. Mix the whole thing up very well and then apply to the roof surface. Allow several minutes for the algae to be killed and then rinse the whole roof down with water. That’s really all there is to it. No pressure washing should be required. The only possible downside is that if you don’t dilute the chemical as it’s exiting the downspouts it can be detrimental to landscaping, but as long as you have somebody on the ground to rinse it down it shouldn’t be an issue. Rely on this method if at all possible. Just be safe and use common sense. Roof cleaning can be very dangerous and you should hire a professional if you have any doubts whatsoever.

There's a good chance that someone along the way tried to tell you that using a bleach or chlorine-based mixture for roof cleaning is "bad" and will harm your shingles. This is a bunch or hogwash, and the only people that will tell you this are the ones that are trying to sell you their own roof cleaning product. They know that they can't cheaply manufacture and ship liquid shock so they don't, even though they know that it's the superior method. Instead they come up with these powders and concoctions that they can make cheaply, ship for next to nothing, and pocket as much profit as possible. Ask any professional home inspector or roof expert and I can virtually guarantee that they will tell you to try to avoid any roof cleaner that must be used in conjunction with a power washer or high pressure''



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Onarooftop wrote:

What's your problem


 My problem is you son. And your attitude.

 



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Calling me Son? Are you kidding me?
That's attitude. what did I do to you.

All remember with you is you calling my bluff
and saying you let everybody know what I did.
I sent it to you right away. It is the easiest thing
in the world and can make you 100 to 300 a job
profit per job? What other tip gets you 300 a job
without any effort. It's about the dumbest thing in
the world, but it makes money every time.

You never said I sent it to you. Great appreciation.

I am going to bite my tongue and assume you have
been drinking a little to much tonight, Dad.


Thanks Ray, for the information on what the powder is all about.

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Onarooftop wrote:

Oh, that sounds like a lot of trouble.

The reason I asked is because I have heard someone say something about pool shock and
I read it in an article, so figured why not ask?


 Basically we have this down to a science and if you just try using our method, you will be able to clean any house the proper way... within an hour... cost effectively. Over the years we have tried to come up with better ways and we have tried a lot of different things but nothing beats how we are currently doing it.

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Thanks. I would have used the 12%, but didn't know exactly where to get
it and was a little tentative knowing it is strong and my roofers haven't done
a ton of spraying.


I am going to check a pool supply like Hank mentioned.
Any brands or stuff to stay away from. I don't want to buy something
that doesn't work or damages something.

Thanks,

Kyle

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Any fresh SH will work amazing just keep it off the plants, make sure you keep the plants watered down and you will be fine.



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Onarooftop wrote:


Thanks for the bulletin. That was pretty cool to see.

Personally I hate certainteed though. If you scroll back a page or 2 you will
see what settlement they pay out for a roof that failed. (New Horizon)
I don't know if it happened in everyone's area, but whole developments of housing
had certainteed shingles that fell apart at 15 yrs. They were 30yr. shingles. They
only gave them a few hundred per house.
For every roof cleaning business there is , they lose money.

Do not use high pressure? How high is high pressure. What is says in your 50 pt standards?

You can use a pitch witch, a glass of water, a tea pot, gatorade bottle, squirt gun. It doesn't
matter as long as you aren't using to high of pressure. Period.


 I agree... I never used Certainteed unless I had to match something or the HO requested it for the most part I used Timberline and Elk.



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Seriously guys? Go to sleep already!

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Yeah, I use the timberlines for everything unless they request something else.
The certaineed landmark's have a good track record, but I think the timberline's
have a better one because in my area they come straight from myerstown plant.
The previous Elk plant. They are the exact Elk Shingles. I believe they sell the
old pattern GAF shingles at Home Depot and call them "Natural Shadow"
Less expensive compared to the Timberline's. They
look much better since they bought out Elk and there shadow granule pattern drop patent.


Thank goodness I didn't install any of the horizon's. They are falling apart all
over town. It was a stroke of luck that I didn't. Who would have imagined that
would happen?

I lost a lot of respect for Certainteed when I visited there factory. They had an assembly
line where they actually had 3 guys sitting above a moving track. The track had 20 yr.
3 tabs and the guys would manually stick small pieces of shingles on top. Then they
were bagged into a designer package and given a designer warranty even though they
were technically just a 20yr. with pieces glued on. lol. The whole plant was archaic.


I purposely stay away from any new line of shingles no matter what company it's from.
Every new line is an experiment. All the Designer high end shingles that I have seen around
here have been breaking down around 20yrs. old.

The Owen's Corning Duration has already had to be revamped since they first came out with
the SureNail nailing plastic strip. Now it's fabric. The plastic strip is going to be the next
major failure. I imagine that is why they changed the design. Horrible design for wind.
To thin were the nail line is. Relying on the solid tar strip that can trap water.



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lol Ed yawn



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There is a ton of knowledge here. The problem you're having is you seem to be questioning our current method. Maybe you're not questioning, but it sure feels that way. Yes people here are going to take offense when a guy who's probably never done a roof properly comes here and starts writing paragraphs full of what seems like stuff we've been over a long time ago.
There are lots of helpful people here, even if they don't seem like it at the moment. Point being, you or anyone should be able to start a roof cleaning business with the combined information that we have all compiled over years of trial and error.
I'm sure there have been several start ups from this site and others like it,.and we never even knew they were here.

It's hard to expect a warm welcome when it seems you're not about to change your way of doing the work. You may have read a few posts from this site but I don't think you've read enough.
This is a simple business when performed properly, what you're doing currently is way to much work. You need to take advantage of the information that is in the pages here. We can usually tell how much a person has read by the questions they ask. I'm not a part of the RCIA's governing body or part of a welcoming committee, I have no idea what is promised to a new guy who pays his fee to join. But even if you'd only be allowed to read, it would be well worth it.

Just step back for a few weeks and read. Most of your questions will be answered.



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Here's my story from when I joined. Once I found RCIA back in 2008 and started doing some research I broke the information, all available here, down in to various catagories. Those were Chemicals, Surfactants, Safety, Hoses, Valves, Quick Disconnects, Lubrication(not KY Jelly), Plants, Gutters, Vehicles, Videos, Ladders, etc.. As i read up on each catagory I saved those posts and wrote my own notes on them, after finishing a roof cleaning or housewash job. Now my ground technician(s) can read this information and view the videos also. It's my own little library.

Like Jeff said it's relatively simple business with low start up costs and a great profit margin.

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Hey Hank,. yes you utilized the site to your full advantage, and probably in turn are very appreciative to those before you who contributed to the database we have here,..I know I am appreciative,..because like everyone here, I've also learned something from someone else.
I like to go back through old posts to keep information in mind, you never know when that little tidbit of information will come in handy.

Jeff



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Jeff,

Yes, I'm very appreciative to all those who have contributed positively to the database. This information not only generates an income for me but employs my ground technician(s). I've developed friendships, even with a  competitor through RCIA, which is unusual in the service industry.

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Welcome to RCIA, ona roof many times. When I first joined, I didn't post until I read and studied posts for about three months. You should read more and post less.

You can learn from the best roof cleaners in the world on this site. They have tested all cleaning solutions and have come up with the BEST meathod to clean a roof. If you would like to hang heavy tarps and use a pitch witch, then the RCIA is not for you.

 



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Hi Bruce, thanks for the warm welcome. I am here for all the right reasons.

Past posts and threads are priceless, but the private message answers are much
quicker and even more priceless.

Like most forums, the best answer is rarely given in the arena.

RCIA governing body hasn't promised anything. I never even got an email. I
realized I was a member when I saw the 250 dollars on my bank statement.
For 250 dollars, I will post and get the quick answer sometimes. I will also study
past threads like you all have said. I also know things change sometimes.

Any rude comments by me are defending myself. I own the largest residential roofing
company in Erie,PA. I started my business many years ago, the exact amount of years
that Gutterdog drove his beer truck. (you asked for that one) lol

As of now, the roof cleaning is a great add on to my roofing company. I am getting cleaning
jobs, I am making money on each job, I am here to learn a more productive way and the
best way "your way"

I'm a newborn in the roof cleaning industry, but I have been around the block in the roof
replacement and repairs. I have plenty to offer on the business end / marketing , and more.
You can make a ton of money adding on some simple repair packages with your roof cleanings.
You can double your money, just like I am currently with the cleanings. The cleanings are my
add on, and you can teach me. The roof repair end can be your add on, and I can teach you.
If you already do, then great. But it is a two way street. I am not kissing anyones toes.

Excited to be a new member, and will show top level respect to whoever shows it to me.

Thanks Again,

Kyle



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Kyle - welcome, and look plast those that are far too quick to cast stones.  

For a handful of others - a wise man once said 'seek first to understand, then to be understood'.  A few are so quick to judge someone by their process that you might completley miss some otherwise great business advise.  His current process is different - BFD.  Read carefully, and you may have added a new service to your business.  (If you're not already offering it then you've left lots of money on the table.)

My biggest competitor uses a surface cleaner on a roof and has a large national backing.. (You know who I'm referring to.)  His process is different than mine (ours) and he and I market directly against each other.  But you know what?  We're very cordial with one another - dare I say friends, and I've learned some very good (and profitable) information from that guy that I could have easily dismissed.  Instead I've listened.  And learned.  And passed on some good info as well.  And now we both make more money.  Hell, I've sent him jobs, and he's sent me at least 4 times as many.

Treat this profession like it is, a profession, and treat the professionals like professionals;  You'll get the same in return.  Don't, and you likley won't.

 

 

 



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Onarooftop wrote:


RCIA governing body hasn't promised anything. I never even got an email. I
realized I was a member when I saw the 250 dollars on my bank statement.
For 250 dollars, I will post and get the quick answer sometimes. I will also study
past threads like you all have said. I also know things change sometimes.

Excited to be a new member, and will show top level respect to whoever shows it to me.

Thanks Again,

Kyle

 Kyle;

You are totally correct. Normally confuse.gifI send a  welcome email to all new members. However, your joining was in the same time frame as a non-member violating copyrights of our logo and members pictures. I spent a lot of time dealing with Go Daddy and sending emails to the offender. I only have a certain amount of time to DONATE to RCIA since I also have a life and business to attend to. I have cut my time from 40 to 60 hours per week, down to 30 to 40 hours per week. All totally free to RCIA smileconfuse.

Again, I apologize for not fulfilling my job duties.  Your account is fully activated and welcome to the team.

Gary --Esq, COF



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