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Does the membership ratify the new 50 Point RCIA Standard? [44 vote(s)]

Yes
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Roof Cleaning Long Island N.Y 516-763-4108 wrote:

Hi Gary....My company like many others is on the up and up. I have Liability,workmans comp additional ins,nice uniforms,a nice truck and lettered trailer {containg RCIA decals } Nice clean equipment,respectable employees,a customers is always right policy,cleaned hundreds of roofs with not one complaint.I take a little bit of offense to your comment " I would hope that anyone that is operating a professional business would already be doing most of what is presented here, maybe just not documenting the results or accomplishments. Again it's my business meeting my requirements. Here are some of the " HOOPS " Criminal background checks,what is on MY website,uniforms,Training on mixing required,Training for traversing tech,High lift training,First aid course,Ladder safty test,Pse test,Fall protection class,Dot safty review,Apply roof cleaning solution,Small bus work shop,Six hours anual cont education. I don't want to sound mean or angry to you Gary your a hard worker here... it's my business,my American dream not a FRANCHISE.



Ditto. That is exactly what I was thinking when I read this. I didn't know I was buying a franchise. As I kept reading and reading I was expecting to read where I had to take a piss test every month! Not that that would bother me. I would pass with flying colors. ( at least yellow colorbiggrin)

 



-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Raleigh NC on Friday 24th of December 2010 08:54:20 PM

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FORD - First On Race Day...in my book.  I appreciate everything that all of our board members put into this.  Certification would be okay if there was not do much piled into one certificate.  I believe optional certifications in different areas would have been a better approach.  That is what PWNA did.  Everyone one, I wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.  May all members have a prosperous 2011.roof cleaning

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What were we talkin about? I Forgot! Merry Christmass RCIA!!!! I posted a vid today. Check it out!

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Where I come from its For Off Road Durability.  roof cleaning

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Here in Ny it's found on road dead!

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Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 wrote:

FORD - First On Race Day...in my book.  I appreciate everything that all of our board members put into this.  Certification would be okay if there was not do much piled into one certificate.  I believe optional certifications in different areas would have been a better approach.  That is what PWNA did.  Everyone one, I wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.  May all members have a prosperous 2011.roof cleaning



Good Idea Marcus!

May you, your wife, and your two sons have a very Merry Christmas!


 



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What a great thread. This is what an org is all about.

Merry Christmas everyone.

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Gary, I know your intentions were good, but you have to admit that was alot to ask for all companies to do.  I'm not going to do criminal background checks on my guys.  If they show up and do their jobs and follow are procedures they will keep working for us.  If they don't want to follow our procedures they can go find another job.  Good idea just too much too soon.   

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Merry Christmas Doug

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Merry Christmas to you Scott  & Celeste!  biggrin

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You too Marcus!!

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Thanks Scott, Merry Christmas to you and your family and here's to a great new year.

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Our prayers are with all of the RCIA brothers, Merry Christmas and may the New Year bring you all excellent Blessings...

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Merry Christmas to my "second" family......RCIA members.

The only reason I'm on the forum today (Christmas morning) is because I have to work (Kodak). I hope you are all enjoying your holiday.

I have read all six pages of comments and have voted NO. I would like to be certified, but don't see it happening if we adopt the 50 point standard. I do agree with MOST points, but don't think we should have all 50 to get certified.

I plan on printing out the 50 points and working to achieve most of them in my second year of roof cleaning. Thank you to all of the volunteers that put their time into this.



-- Edited by Bruce Weber on Saturday 25th of December 2010 09:48:51 AM

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Roof Cleaning Toledo Ohio (419) 265-3306 wrote:

Gary, I know your intentions were good, but you have to admit that was alot to ask for all companies to do.  I'm not going to do criminal background checks on my guys.  If they show up and do their jobs and follow are procedures they will keep working for us.  If they don't want to follow our procedures they can go find another job.  Good idea just too much too soon.



Perhaps we should reword it to say "we check all employees for active criminal warrants, to insure that America's Most Wanted don't show up at your door"
Or, we could simply say we do a criminal background check ?
What we DO with that background check is up to our discretion.

This is just speaking for me, but I am not gonna fire an employee just because he got caught with some weed, or kicked someones azz in a bar fight years ago.
As long as he has changed his ways, I think everyone deserves a second chance ?
WWJD ?


 



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Roof Cleaning Pro Greensboro NC (336)362 7659 wrote:

I understand TSP is illegal in some parts of the U.S. but here in Greensboro NC it is still sold at Home Depot, Lowes, and professional paint stores.

Yes, it's illegal for consumers to use, but if it is being sold to professionals here in NC and many parts of the country it can be an option. Otherwise why would they sell it, if it is totally illegal. It's not that illegal.

I think it should be an option depending on the area of the country and not restricted by the RCIA saying it's not allowed at all.



confused.gif I am confused on this one, we can purchase TSP and I use it at times, I like it also


21.Members shall follow either the Asphalt Roofing Manufacturers (ARMA) or the RCIA’s Technical Guidelines for cleaning roofs including accepted chemicals.

28. Members shall not use Tri-sodium phosphate in any roof cleaning solution. Phosphates like TSP have been outlawed in much of the Americas therefore the RCIA does not endorse the use of TSP.

Which is it? Do we follow the ARMA or Not?

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Tel: (202) 207-0917 • Fax: (202) 223-9741www.asphaltroofing.orgARMA Form No. 217-RR-89

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Revised May 2007Algae Discolorationof RoofsNote: This document was prepared by the Asphalt Roofing Manufacturers Association and is disseminated for informational purposes only. Nothingcontained herein is intended to revoke or change the requirements or specifications of the individual roofing material manufacturers or local, state and

federal building officials that have jurisdiction in your area. Any question, or inquiry, as to the requirements or specifications of a manufacturer, should be

directed to the roofing manufacturer concerned. THE USER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ASSURING COMPLIANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE LAWS AND REGULATIONS.

Nothing contained herein shall be interpreted as a warranty by ARMA, either express or implied, including but not limited to the implied warranties of

merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose or non-infringement. IN NO EVENT SHALL ARMA BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER, including

special, indirect, consequential or incidental damages or damages for loss of profits, revenue, use or data, whether claimed in contract, tort or otherwise.

Where exclusion of implied warranties is not allowed, ARMA’s liability shall be limited to the minimum scope and period permitted by law.

For many years, roof discoloration caused by algae has been observed throughout the United States and Canada.

This is commonly referred to as "fungus growth." The discoloration usually has a brown to black appearance, and

may be mistaken for soot, dirt, moss, or tree droppings.

The primary species of algae being observed is Gloeocapsa Magma. This type of algae is contained in and transported

through the air, and tends to collect and grow upon roofing structures. Natural pigments produced by this

algae may cause a white or light colored roof to gradually turn dark brown or black. The algae discolorations should

not be confused with moss or tree droppings, which typically produce only localized discolorations.

This type of roof discoloration has been most widespread in the Gulf States and along the Northwest and Eastern

Seaboards. It is not, however, confined to only these regions. Algae growth occurs to varying degrees in all regions

of the country, especially those subjected to warm, humid conditions. It should be noted that almost all types of

roofing systems are susceptible to algae discoloration. It is, of course, most readily visible upon white or pastel roofs,

while it is not so visible upon darker shades of roofing.

Algae discolorations are difficult to remove from roofing surfaces, but may be lightened by applying a solution ofchlorine bleach, trisodium phosphate, and water. Solutions for these ingredients may vary between shingle manufacturers

and depend on the amount of discoloration. Solutions range from one cup TSP, one gallon bleach and five

gallons of water, to one cup TSP and 2.5 gallons each of bleach and water.


 

 



Good Point.

TSP is illegal in some parts of the US, NOT all parts.
The RCIA has to be very careful in what it endorses
for use. There can be legal ramifications to the RCIA
for blanketly endorsing something that is legal in some
states, and not in others. I believe this is why in the
50 points is was clearly stated RCIA does not endorse
the use of phosphates and TSP. This is just my observation
on this.

 

 




How about "RCIA does not endorse the use of TSP in states where it is illegal" ?



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Ratification of the RCIA 50 Point Standard did not pass as written. In the coming weeks we will take suggestions on how to amend the doc and or change the direction of the certification committee based on member input.

We are closing this thread and we will start a new one shortly after the hollidays and try this again.

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