You guys need to go out and get some work going. Stop worrying about the CT and go make some money. Chris once said he wanted this board to be fun. Well its not any fun reading this BS about the CT. Stop the typing and go get some work. Make money to feed your familys, that is whats Important.
You guys need to go out and get some work going. Stop worrying about the CT and go make some money. Chris once said he wanted this board to be fun. Well its not any fun reading this BS about the CT. Stop the typing and go get some work. Make money to feed your familys, that is whats Important.
Oh Im not worried my friend, but i am concerned about how certain people handle things... they keep you in the blind, and do not communicate, why is this? because its all about them, its not about our membership or our organization. sorry you dont see this, and its raining today so i have the day off , first one in months. and please dont tell me whats important..
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I have a question ...the approval for one company to certify roof cleaners is now posted ....that means a program has been passed for certification......Lets see it.
Its not reasonable to say your still working on. Its done....... time to show the membership.
if the certification allows for other ways great ....If their is only one way and it cost is 2500 dollars tells us quit dancing around ...
at $2500 dollars how much goes to the Rcia board and How much goes to Chris T as far as I'm concerned he should get every dime collected. He is the godfather of Roof cleaning He started this board ....He has helped everyone and continues doing so.
One last before this firestorm comes at me.........look at what the name of the company is thats putting this on... It a private company that was approved ....the only one as of today
edit : I have nothing against ac or his company he seems nice I have no axe to grind with him ....My only problem is doesnt look fair......
-- Edited by dollarspa on Tuesday 8th of March 2011 12:16:04 AM
Gotta agree with David. Nothing has been told to the premium members and already a company has set a date for Certification? Really?!! Either a leash needs to be put on the Vendor or something stinks. JMHO
This is the same vendor selling products that they still have not delivered months later. Now they are trying to sell our certifications.
I have a question ...the approval for one company to certify roof cleaners is now posted ....that means a program has been passed for certification......Lets see it.
Its not reasonable to say your still working on. Its done....... time to show the membership.
if the certification allows for other ways great ....If their is only one way and it cost is 2500 dollars tells us quit dancing around ...
at $2500 dollars how much goes to the Rcia board and How much goes to Chris T as far as I'm concerned he should get every dime collected. He is the godfather of Roof cleaning He started this board ....He has helped everyone and continues doing so.
One last before this firestorm comes at me.........look at what the name of the company is thats putting this on... It a private company that was approved ....the only one as of today
edit : I have nothing against ac or his company he seems nice I have no axe to grind with him ....My only problem is doesnt look fair......
-- Edited by dollarspa on Tuesday 8th of March 2011 12:16:04 AM
Gotta agree with David. Nothing has been told to the premium members and already a company has set a date for Certification? Really?!! Either a leash needs to be put on the Vendor or something stinks. JMHO
This is the same vendor selling products that they still have not delivered months later. Now they are trying to sell our certifications.
Good point there. You should have said that when the commitee said ask Delux for more money??
There appears to be allot of concern about certification and then there is the vendor issue. These topic's have generated allot of discussion.
Certification: It is important to know someone has studied the process and to pass certification provided that check and balance. Short of that, certification will not make or break your business. My personal opinion is that everyone is reading way to much into this certification process. Given my present experience and the knowledge gained from RCIA, my roof cleaning business will go forward whether Iam certified or not.
Certification can be nothing more then this member follows the RCIA standards for professional roof cleaning.
I choose to have the certification, whatever that maybe. I can assure you that anyone starting up in my area that isn't RCIA certified will wish they were!
Let the committee develop certification guidelines and then have the discussion. I am sure everyone will have the opportunity for feedback and imput.
Vendors: Business is business! Vendors run a business. Personally the more the better on this forum. I don't care what or who they represent. As it has been said before competition is good! If they have something to better my business great, if not, have a nice day. Besides if you don't like what they have or are not happy with the products there is always Google.
I say bring them on, good or bad, big or small, we'll weed them out because a vendor cannot stay in business if they don't sell their products. The best part is "you" have the choice whether to purchase or not. So at the end of the day who controls anything, the vendors or us, the customer?
It's time to more forward Brother(s).
My two cents.
Maybe every member should Strive to be better than the certification?
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There appears to be allot of concern about certification and then there is the vendor issue. These topic's have generated allot of discussion.
Certification: It is important to know someone has studied the process and to pass certification provided that check and balance. Short of that, certification will not make or break your business. My personal opinion is that everyone is reading way to much into this certification process. Given my present experience and the knowledge gained from RCIA, my roof cleaning business will go forward whether Iam certified or not.
Certification can be nothing more then this member follows the RCIA standards for professional roof cleaning.
I choose to have the certification, whatever that maybe. I can assure you that anyone starting up in my area that isn't RCIA certified will wish they were!
Let the committee develop certification guidelines and then have the discussion. I am sure everyone will have the opportunity for feedback and imput.
Vendors: Business is business! Vendors run a business. Personally the more the better on this forum. I don't care what or who they represent. As it has been said before competition is good! If they have something to better my business great, if not, have a nice day. Besides if you don't like what they have or are not happy with the products there is always Google.
I say bring them on, good or bad, big or small, we'll weed them out because a vendor cannot stay in business if they don't sell their products. The best part is "you" have the choice whether to purchase or not. So at the end of the day who controls anything, the vendors or us, the customer?
It's time to more forward Brother(s).
My two cents.
Maybe every member should Strive to be better than the certification?
Maybe we are already striving to be the very best we can be.
Oh great one.
Your presence is getting old.
Chuck
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You're one to talk Chuck. I think most people prefer someone around who could give us good sound business advice and not just how to clean a roof alone.
You're one to talk Chuck. I think most people prefer someone around who could give us good sound business advice and not just how to clean a roof alone.
I speak my own mind, you speak AC's mind and Musgraves' mind. You are a a well known a$$ licker.
I have no interest in your opinion.
Chuck
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Chuck if you've been around for more than 10 minutes you know that's not true. I defend where warranted and dissent when necessary. I disagree with Ron plenty and he knows it.
If you wish to give your opinion when it is not sought after prepare to hear others
-- Edited by Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX on Friday 25th of March 2011 08:49:45 PM
Chuck if you've been around for more than 10 minutes you know that's not true. I defend where warranted and dissent when necessary. I disagree with Ron plenty and he knows it.
If you wish to give your opinion when it is not sought after prepare to hear others
-- Edited by Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX on Friday 25th of March 2011 08:49:45 PM
Sounds like you consider yourself perfect?
I have been here more than 10 minutes and that's not the way I see it.
You struck many of us as an AC clone-"would be" guy.
I don't know about Ron, other than this post. I just assumed anyone with any "imagined power" so to speak, you follow like a puppy dog.
That's my opinion. And as you said "If you wish to give your opinion when it is not sought after prepare to hear others" That goes for you too, right?
Lets drop it. We know how each other feels and this doesn't have to become a "drama"
I'd say I'm sorry, but that's not the truth. The truth is, from reading your posts, I don't much like you!
Chuck
-- Edited by Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 on Friday 25th of March 2011 09:22:25 PM
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Nope. I've answered to me since I was 16. I do love that those with no ammo go straight to my age as a retort. You've got the intellectual capacity of a bag of rocks. Don't forget, you cast the first stone.
Scott, it's your immaturity, not your age that's showing. Chuck seems to want to agree to disagree which is an adult way to handle things. Much more adult than needing to get the last word. BTW, it was you who cast the first stone in this exchange. Chuck replied to Ron and you jumped Chuck, he wasn't speaking to you. If you don't believe me, read the thread. Also, I'm pretty certain that personal attacks aren't allowed anymore, so you might want to choose your words carefully. JMHO with a fact or two thrown in.
Nope. I've answered to me since I was 16. I do love that those with no ammo go straight to my age as a retort. You've got the intellectual capacity of a bag of rocks. Don't forget, you cast the first stone.
Nope. I've answered to me since I was 16. I see, that explians it. So, what are you now, 17? That explains the way you speak to older people.
I do love that those with no ammo go straight to my age as a retort. { hmmmm, seems like it was you who brought up age- my age and insulted all older roof cleaners as being washed up - why, no ammo?
You've got the intellectual capacity of a bag of rocks. Unlike you, whom anyone can see how intelligent your comments are="Its probably because I'm not a washed up old fuck that you can relate to." Ahhhh, the words of a well spoken man!
Don't forget, you cast the first stone. No, actually you did. I was speaking to Ron, not you. So, you cast the first stone at me. And you won't even drop it and just agree that [as I've said a few times] we know how each other feels, now lets drop it.
Like the post below says It's not your age, it's your immaturity showing.
Let's drop it. You got the 1st word in to me, now concede to my washed up old age and DROP IT.
Chuck
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Hey Art, regardless of what someone says their intentions are, the lines are simple to read between. Niether chuck or you wish to agree to disagree. Everyone knows where both of you stand and it doesn't need to be aired anymore. Same goes with me.
Chuck you can't randomly jump into posts and attack, then say "let's just drop it* anymore. If either of you really wanted to drop it, you would, but you won't because that's not your intentions.
And Chuck I didn't say ALL older roof cleaners were washed up, I said YOU were. Don't put words in my mouth.
Last word :)
-- Edited by Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX on Saturday 26th of March 2011 11:01:52 AM