The Roof Cleaning Institute Of America Training & Certification Forum
"Find A Certified Roof Cleaner Directory"

Members Login
Post Info TOPIC: A Conversation With Titan Hose Reels


RCIA Founder

Status: Offline
Posts: 7904
Date:
A Conversation With Titan Hose Reels
Permalink  
 


We use the largest 36 inch Titan Hose Reels because we need 300 feet of hose.
I have used Titan Hose Reels for years with 300 feet of 1/2 inch hose when we ran a higher pressure roof cleaning pump, capable of overcoming the friction and flow loss of 1/2 inch hose. The air diapraghm pumps don't have 2 or 300 psi like what we used to use, so we switched to 5/8 hose. That is when the problems started with the Titan Hose reels. The manifolds began snapping where the hose attachment meets the manifolds. Mark Teschler of Titan and I were of the opinion that perhaps the chlorine was atacking the weld, causing it to break ? Upon further thought, we both decided the problem was the 5/8 hose is MUCH heavier then the 1/2 inch hose we used previously. Mark suggested we take and place some plastic garbage ties around a few turns of hose, to take the strain off of the weld! What a brilliant idea! I am convinced it is the torque of the heavy 5/8 hose that is causing the welds to break. The plastic locking garbage ties will stop this. No way is the chlorine attacking the stainless steel weld. Titan is using 316 stainless steel welding rod. I have used roof cleaning pumps with stainless steel valve springs as thin as a paper clip, and they lasted 6 months or so. IF the Titan reel had a one inch manifold inside it, I am confident this fix would not be needed. However, that will add greatly to the cost of the reel. I know of NO other competing hose reel even close to the price and performance of the Titans.
I also wish to say Mark Teschler of Titan was quite nice to me on the phone yesterday, because I was not nice to him! I HATE chit that breaks, and I am never at a "loss for words" if I think someone is responsible. Mark kept a cool head, and came up with a quick and dirty fix. Perhaps that is why he is a mechanical engineer, and I am not ?
Chlorine is nasty chit guys, and I would suggest doing what Mark from Titan suggested to YOUR reels, even if you are only using 1/2 inch hose. The plastic ties will absorb the torque before it hits the weld, and make your reels last longer!



__________________


Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Florida

711 Westbrook

Brandon, FL 33511

813 655 8777

See our website here 

Click here for more information

Here are more of our services

Watch a short video

 




 



Guest

Status: Offline
Posts: 1607
Date:
Permalink  
 


Chris, if I'm following you correctly, another option is to secure the hose to the side (disc) of the reel on the same side that the attachment to the manifold is on.   It too takes ALL the pressure off of that weld.

Unfortunately, I don't know the name of the piece of hardware that I used to secure it, otherwise I'd post a stock pic.  It's very similar to what one would secure metal conduit to a wall with (except in stainless).  When the nut is tightened to secure it to the reel, it squeezes the hose to hold it secure similar to a regular hose clamp.   And it has a rubber sleeve over it to prevent it from cutting the hose.

Even with the hose secured like I mentioned above, I still lay my hose back on itself if I have a whole lot of it out.  It cuts the weight/pressure of the reel in half when reeling it up and only takes a minute.


__________________
 
American-ProTech 
Proudly serving Northern Virginia, DC, Maryland and Atlanta
 (571) 250-9650 VA
 (240) 398-3800 MD
(404) 858-4888 Atlanta GA


Guest

Status: Offline
Posts: 244
Date:
Permalink  
 

It would seem like they'd figure out how to better reinforce the welds? There reels damn sure aren't cheap!

__________________

Roof Restore LLC
(832) 453-9941 (c)



Guest

Status: Offline
Posts: 1213
Date:
Permalink  
 

Good stuff chris. Its nice to finally get to the bottom of it. I've been concerened about recommending them.

Ill stick with 1/2" hose smile.gif

__________________




Premium Member Roof Cleaning Institute of America Certified Roof Cleaning Specialist

Status: Offline
Posts: 1398
Date:
Permalink  
 

Thanks for the heads up Chris!  138394,138394,

__________________

Professional Roof Cleaning, Power Washing,
& Pressure Washing services company in
Houston Tx, Katy Tx, Fulshear Tx,
Richmond Tx, Sugar Land Tx,
Roof Cleaning Power Washing Pressure Washing
Marcus Raif
Katy, Texas
www.k-mpw.com
Roof Cleaning Pictures Houston Tx
Facebook



RCIA Founder

Status: Offline
Posts: 7904
Date:
Permalink  
 

Roof Cleaning Northern Virginia (571) 250 9650 wrote:

 


Chris, if I'm following you correctly, another option is to secure the hose to the side (disc) of the reel on the same side that the attachment to the manifold is on.   It too takes ALL the pressure off of that weld.

Unfortunately, I don't know the name of the piece of hardware that I used to secure it, otherwise I'd post a stock pic.  It's very similar to what one would secure metal conduit to a wall with (except in stainless).  When the nut is tightened to secure it to the reel, it squeezes the hose to hold it secure similar to a regular hose clamp.   And it has a rubber sleeve over it to prevent it from cutting the hose.

Even with the hose secured like I mentioned above, I still lay my hose back on itself if I have a whole lot of it out.  It cuts the weight/pressure of the reel in half when reeling it up and only takes a minute.

 



Yes Ted, that would be a way of doing it as well. Anything to take the pressure off the reels manifold attachment. Your way is probably better, especially with the rubber to keep from slicing into the hose. Please post a pic Ted, if you can ?

 



__________________


Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Florida

711 Westbrook

Brandon, FL 33511

813 655 8777

See our website here 

Click here for more information

Here are more of our services

Watch a short video

 




 



guest

Status: Offline
Posts: 2289
Date:
Permalink  
 

I wish someone would post a pic because I have no clue what your talking about?

__________________
H20 POWERWASHING
Roof Cleaning Lanoka Harbor NJ 08734
clydesampsel@gmail.com
www.roofcleaningjerseyshore.com



RCIA Founder

Status: Offline
Posts: 7904
Date:
Permalink  
 

Chowell77 wrote:

It would seem like they'd figure out how to better reinforce the welds? There reels damn sure aren't cheap!



Mark Teschler of Titan is on top of it, just waiting for me to send this broken manifold to him for X Rays (It lasted little over a month) !
The last broken one was supposed to go to him, but got trashed by the shop we had do the repairs! Lori from Pressure Washer Products is quite a distance away from me, and we were in a hurry, so we took it to another Titan dealer closer to us yawn
They did not save the broken manifold cry

The manifolds are a Bitch to repair, you need a bearing puller we don't have to do it!

It MUST be the 300 feet of 5/8 hose simply overwhelming the mechanical welded connection ?

But this IS a 36 inch Titan Manifold, the biggest one they make.

Why else would a customer buy such a big manifold, unless they had a lot of larger diameter hose ?

I trust the good people at Titan Hose reels to find a permanent fix. In the meantime guys, strapping your reels as Ted and I have done may be a good idea ?

 

 

 



__________________


Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Florida

711 Westbrook

Brandon, FL 33511

813 655 8777

See our website here 

Click here for more information

Here are more of our services

Watch a short video

 




 



Guest

Status: Offline
Posts: 546
Date:
Permalink  
 

Scott, You still using 1/2 inch hose with the Fatboy?  If so is it working o.k for you we are setting up our third truck this winter and might try try something different. We are currently using 5/8 hose. 

__________________

Toledo Roof Cleaning LLC
Serving Ohio, Michigan and Indiana
(419) 265-3306
NON-PRESSURE ROOF CLEANING
Roof Cleaning Toledo, Ohio


http://toledoroofcleaning.com

 


 



Guest

Status: Offline
Posts: 1213
Date:
Permalink  
 

Been using 1/2" hose with the fatboy for 2 1/2 years with no problems except for the relays. Works great. Nice and light, great flow .

__________________




Guest

Status: Offline
Posts: 1607
Date:
Permalink  
 

Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

 

Roof Cleaning Northern Virginia (571) 250 9650 wrote:

 


Chris, if I'm following you correctly, another option is to secure the hose to the side (disc) of the reel on the same side that the attachment to the manifold is on.   It too takes ALL the pressure off of that weld.

Unfortunately, I don't know the name of the piece of hardware that I used to secure it, otherwise I'd post a stock pic.  It's very similar to what one would secure metal conduit to a wall with (except in stainless).  When the nut is tightened to secure it to the reel, it squeezes the hose to hold it secure similar to a regular hose clamp.   And it has a rubber sleeve over it to prevent it from cutting the hose.

Even with the hose secured like I mentioned above, I still lay my hose back on itself if I have a whole lot of it out.  It cuts the weight/pressure of the reel in half when reeling it up and only takes a minute.

 



Yes Ted, that would be a way of doing it as well. Anything to take the pressure off the reels manifold attachment. Your way is probably better, especially with the rubber to keep from slicing into the hose. Please post a pic Ted, if you can ?

 

 



Here's the picture you asked for Chris.  I stand corrected, it's NOT stainless, but has been doing the job very well.  I'll replace it proactively and  soon now that I see the corrosion on it.  It takes all the pressure off of the intake manifold.  

Perhaps your contacts at Titan could look at this and come up with something built in, and more robust?

 



Attachments
__________________
 
American-ProTech 
Proudly serving Northern Virginia, DC, Maryland and Atlanta
 (571) 250-9650 VA
 (240) 398-3800 MD
(404) 858-4888 Atlanta GA


Premium Member Roof Cleaning Institute of America

Status: Offline
Posts: 12
Date:
Permalink  
 

Here is where I buy all my loom clamps. Great place to deal with!

http://www.delcity.net/store/Loom-Clamps-!-Stainless-Steel/p_286.a_1

__________________

Central Illinois Roof Cleaning
1341 N Rt 26
East Peoria, IL 61611
309-822-1017
www.Wash-My-Roof.com



Guest

Status: Offline
Posts: 1607
Date:
Permalink  
 

sabercatt wrote:

Here is where I buy all my loom clamps. Great place to deal with!

http://www.delcity.net/store/Loom-Clamps-!-Stainless-Steel/p_286.a_1




So that's what they're called!  Thank you, and for the tip on where to by them in stainless.



__________________
 
American-ProTech 
Proudly serving Northern Virginia, DC, Maryland and Atlanta
 (571) 250-9650 VA
 (240) 398-3800 MD
(404) 858-4888 Atlanta GA


none

Status: Offline
Posts: 692
Date:
Permalink  
 

Roof Cleaning Northern Virginia (571) 250 9650 wrote:

 

Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

 

Roof Cleaning Northern Virginia (571) 250 9650 wrote:

 


Chris, if I'm following you correctly, another option is to secure the hose to the side (disc) of the reel on the same side that the attachment to the manifold is on.   It too takes ALL the pressure off of that weld.

Unfortunately, I don't know the name of the piece of hardware that I used to secure it, otherwise I'd post a stock pic.  It's very similar to what one would secure metal conduit to a wall with (except in stainless).  When the nut is tightened to secure it to the reel, it squeezes the hose to hold it secure similar to a regular hose clamp.   And it has a rubber sleeve over it to prevent it from cutting the hose.

Even with the hose secured like I mentioned above, I still lay my hose back on itself if I have a whole lot of it out.  It cuts the weight/pressure of the reel in half when reeling it up and only takes a minute.

 



Yes Ted, that would be a way of doing it as well. Anything to take the pressure off the reels manifold attachment. Your way is probably better, especially with the rubber to keep from slicing into the hose. Please post a pic Ted, if you can ?

 

 



Here's the picture you asked for Chris.  I stand corrected, it's NOT stainless, but has been doing the job very well.  I'll replace it proactively and  soon now that I see the corrosion on it.  It takes all the pressure off of the intake manifold.  

Perhaps your contacts at Titan could look at this and come up with something built in, and more robust?

 

 



Ted those are just the ticket. any leads on stainless steel ones?

AC

 



__________________


Guest

Status: Offline
Posts: 1607
Date:
Permalink  
 

AC - please see the post above by Central Illinois Roof Cleaning with the URL for stainless versions.

http://www.delcity.net/store/Loom-Clamps-!-Stainless-Steel/p_286.a_1


__________________
 
American-ProTech 
Proudly serving Northern Virginia, DC, Maryland and Atlanta
 (571) 250-9650 VA
 (240) 398-3800 MD
(404) 858-4888 Atlanta GA


RCIA Founder

Status: Offline
Posts: 7904
Date:
Permalink  
 

Roof Cleaning Northern Virginia (571) 250 9650 wrote:

 

Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

 

Roof Cleaning Northern Virginia (571) 250 9650 wrote:

 


Chris, if I'm following you correctly, another option is to secure the hose to the side (disc) of the reel on the same side that the attachment to the manifold is on.   It too takes ALL the pressure off of that weld.

Unfortunately, I don't know the name of the piece of hardware that I used to secure it, otherwise I'd post a stock pic.  It's very similar to what one would secure metal conduit to a wall with (except in stainless).  When the nut is tightened to secure it to the reel, it squeezes the hose to hold it secure similar to a regular hose clamp.   And it has a rubber sleeve over it to prevent it from cutting the hose.

Even with the hose secured like I mentioned above, I still lay my hose back on itself if I have a whole lot of it out.  It cuts the weight/pressure of the reel in half when reeling it up and only takes a minute.

 



Yes Ted, that would be a way of doing it as well. Anything to take the pressure off the reels manifold attachment. Your way is probably better, especially with the rubber to keep from slicing into the hose. Please post a pic Ted, if you can ?

 

 



Here's the picture you asked for Chris.  I stand corrected, it's NOT stainless, but has been doing the job very well.  I'll replace it proactively and  soon now that I see the corrosion on it.  It takes all the pressure off of the intake manifold.  

Perhaps your contacts at Titan could look at this and come up with something built in, and more robust?

 

138394,138394,138394,



Thank You Ted!!!!!!!!!  This should take the stress off the welded manifold hose attachment.  I hope Titan takes note of this, and maybe will make it standard on their reels.

I do not want anyone to think Titan does not care about us, because they do! Guaranteed, I have put every grey hair on Mark Teschlers head. no

Seriously, they want to make the best product they can. It is only through feedback from us actual users of their hose reels that they can make improvements in their products.

 



__________________


Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Florida

711 Westbrook

Brandon, FL 33511

813 655 8777

See our website here 

Click here for more information

Here are more of our services

Watch a short video

 




 



Premium Member Roof Cleaning Institute of America

Status: Offline
Posts: 227
Date:
Permalink  
 

Me too.

__________________

Al Gigliotti

ANR Cleaning Services LLC

Orange Park Fl 32073 - 904-710-1249

http://anrcleanteam.com

http://pressurecleanjax.com

http://www.facebook.com/pages/ANR-Cleaning-Services-LLC/243026462412899



Guest

Status: Offline
Posts: 1607
Date:
Permalink  
 

Chris (Tucker) If you happen to see this post, take a quick look at the video here:
http://www.no-crank.com/  (I broke the link intentionally)

I saw one of these at a customer's house - the teak one, and realized very quickly I wanted one for my house.

Think your contacts at Titan might be able to do something similar? (barring patent concerns of course).  An auto reel with no 12v motor to be concerned about could be a nice option.  If it has the torque...(A roof pump would need a by-pass to operate it though).

The one I saw was very well built, Israeli made.  Good stuff.  The land of bad ass commandos and top notch engineers.


__________________
 
American-ProTech 
Proudly serving Northern Virginia, DC, Maryland and Atlanta
 (571) 250-9650 VA
 (240) 398-3800 MD
(404) 858-4888 Atlanta GA


Roof Cleaning Institute of America Premium Member/MODERATOR

Status: Offline
Posts: 744
Date:
Permalink  
 

Ted, great hose reel even if we can use it for chems. Nice to take hose off the truck (for us that don't carry H2O) put it at the hose bib and go to town for the ground guy! Done? Watch it go back in it's home. Carry it back to the truck!

This has been a good post and something for me to keep in mind when March arrives!

__________________

540-949-6277

Serving East & West of the Blue Ridge

West Virginia Counties
Pendleton, Pocahontas & Randolph


Roof Cleaning Virginia



none

Status: Offline
Posts: 692
Date:
Permalink  
 

Roof Cleaning Northern Virginia (571) 250 9650 wrote:

 

AC - please see the post above by Central Illinois Roof Cleaning with the URL for stainless versions.

http://www.delcity.net/store/Loom-Clamps-!-Stainless-Steel/p_286.a_1

 




I found them as well at West Marine stores.



__________________
Page 1 of 1  sorted by
Quick Reply

Please log in to post quick replies.

Tweet this page Post to Digg Post to Del.icio.us


Create your own FREE Forum
Report Abuse
Powered by ActiveBoard