I came across this web site in my home town. Are these machines running with low pressure tips? Whats your professional opinion on this method of roof cleaning? It doesnt appear that they're using chems.
-- Edited by jetcity on Saturday 17th of October 2009 04:22:29 AM
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and so am I.
In my opinion, these methods as shown in the pics you presented, are utterly ridiculous.
Like bringing a knife to a gun fight. Your going to lose, no matter how fast or slick you are.
Bringing the RIGHT tools, training and methods will get you the desired outcome.
Roof Cleaning in a softwash method is vastly different to the power washing roofs to get them to look clean.
This method, as depicted in the photos you submitted is totally against all roofing manufacturers guidelines, will blow roof shingle granules to kindom come and have no place up on a roof.
Damage is all you will experience with these tools. They are much better suited for CONCRETE cleaning and driveway sweeping, not sensitive asphalt roofing shingle cleaning.
But, truth be told, you would be suprised how many on this forum have used these contraptions up on the roof top in their past lives.
Many years ago I gave it a go a time or two. Never again.
Non Pressure Roof Cleaning is a COMPLETELY different animal and you will need to read quite a bit more until you undo the thinking that the powers that be in the industry have brainwashed the majority of property owners into thinking.
You will look at the roof cleaning world with new eyes, Josh, but you must read, read read, my friend.
LOL Josh I have seen you on this site before. that blows me away how you could read all about this low pressure cleaning system and see all these pictures then clean that roof the way you did. WoW I thought I made a big deal out of everything. Josh at least you are trying which is good, but I don't think you have to re - invent the wheel of roof cleaning it's all here.
I started pressure washing when it was'nt cool. Could not find pressure washers unless you ordered them. I wanted work but would not do roofs because they were dangerous. To clean like that you physically must reach the highest peak while damaging the roof. That seems stupid to me. Look at the path these pro's on this site have layed for us. It is safe and effective.
Ease up guys. He said he saw this on a web site. He didn't say he was cleaning roofs that way. He is asking for opinions about this equipment. I tried a water broom attachment a few years back. I quickly realized that pressure was not the way to clean roofs. I kept researching and found the ARMA bulletin and it changed my whole way of thinking because it worked and worked well!
Josh, listen to Dave. These machines are unnecessary and cause damage to shingles. It doesn't matter what they claim, they cause granule loss. If you check out the gutters on a house that has never had roof cleaning done, you will find a decent amount of granules in the gutters from normal rain. Imagine what the added pressure of one of these machines is doing.
The main reason people use these machines is because they are using the wrong chemicals and the roof will not come clean if they don't use pressure to clean it.
Keep reading up and find a roof to try cleaning with Apple Sauce, Apple Cider, or Apple Cider Sauce. The results will speak for themselves and you will see that you don't need any type of pressure aparatus to assist with the cleaning.
On a side note.....
When you or anyone else that is new puts pictures in your posts, make sure you use the "attach file" option underneath the text box that you are typing in. Don't use the "insert image" option at the top of the text box. If you use the "insert image" and the picture is large, it will stretch the forum and you will not see the picture properly and the text will go out of the screen so that you have to scroll over to read it.
Brian
-- Edited by The Roof Cleaners of Chester County Pennsylvania 610-842-2104 on Friday 16th of October 2009 09:29:45 AM
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"You will look at the roof cleaning world with new eyes, Josh, but you must read, read read, my friend."
"The truth is out there and the answers will come."
David,
Oh man, I got hit with the 'Read, read, read comment Yeah, those photos were huge on there website. I tried to shrink them a little without distorting the resolution too much. Duly noted: no big pic posting.
Clyde, I dont know what to make of your comment. Are you implying that I cleaned these roofs? This was another company I found doing a web search. Yeah I was curious about these devises, I had read about larger orifice tips too that lower the pressure. Especially for the device in the second photo. I thought I read; if you have three of four large orifice tips you can drop your pressure significantly. Im just trying to learn guys. Learn how and why things are good and why things are bad.
-- Edited by jetcity on Friday 16th of October 2009 09:59:05 AM
That's definetely the wrong way to clean a roof. It doesnt matter how much LOW pressure they're using it's still WAY to much. That is not a good practice.There is only one REAL way to clean a roof and that's no pressure with the love. If you're not using this method then you should not even be allowed on a roof. Wherever those pictures are online someone needs to take them off. That does not look good for our business.
-- Edited by PrestigePressure on Friday 16th of October 2009 09:54:40 AM
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Josh it was not my intention to blast you, just the process. Even if it was not harmfull to the roof you would still have to climb, crawl and basically put your life in danger trying to do this, when you could be spraying from the gutter.
It's a bad method and as others have voiced there opinion on it and also with backing of TD's from ARMA/GAF I would not suggest doing that way.
Follow the RCIA and recommended methods by shingle manufactures and you will be fine. There is always that chance of a plant or two maybe getting wilted but you know that you will save the life of that customers roof. I just had a situation my ground guy missed a small cedar 8 ft tree and it died but everything else around the house is good but this one tree he missed but the customer is happy that there roof looks so good but again this one plant my ground guy did not rinse as he should have. I also blame myself but he has been with me all summer and should not have missed it.
I would not use those methods though, good luck bud.
Roof Cleaning of Virginia Beach, VA 757-650-7456. wrote:
It's a bad method and as others have voiced there opinion on it and also with backing of TD's from ARMA/GAF I would not suggest doing that way.
Follow the RCIA and recommended methods by shingle manufactures and you will be fine. There is always that chance of a plant or two maybe getting wilted but you know that you will save the life of that customers roof. I just had a situation my ground guy missed a small cedar 8 ft tree and it died but everything else around the house is good but this one tree he missed but the customer is happy that there roof looks so good but again this one plant my ground guy did not rinse as he should have. I also blame myself but he has been with me all summer and should not have missed it.
I would not use those methods though, good luck bud.
Hi James I am curious to know how you handled that problem regarding the 8 foot cedar tree.
Roof Cleaning of Virginia Beach, VA 757-650-7456. wrote:
It's a bad method and as others have voiced there opinion on it and also with backing of TD's from ARMA/GAF I would not suggest doing that way.
Follow the RCIA and recommended methods by shingle manufactures and you will be fine. There is always that chance of a plant or two maybe getting wilted but you know that you will save the life of that customers roof. I just had a situation my ground guy missed a small cedar 8 ft tree and it died but everything else around the house is good but this one tree he missed but the customer is happy that there roof looks so good but again this one plant my ground guy did not rinse as he should have. I also blame myself but he has been with me all summer and should not have missed it.
I would not use those methods though, good luck bud.
Hi James I am curious to know how you handled that problem regarding the 8 foot cedar tree.
who replaced the tree you or a landscaper and curious how much that cost?
as roof cleaners we have to be so careful to protect peoples property. I think I/m out of the woods but I thought I was goiing to have to pay 2000 dollars for some weeping willows and etc.
thats another reason we have to help each other and educate one another because the untrained worker could really give roof cleaners a bad name.
If it comes to killing all thier trees they will rather not have their roof cleaned!