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RE: APPLE CIDER SAUCE

BCRoofClean · Guest

Where do you get that much iso in large quantities at?

Roof Cleaning Collegeville PA · Guest

ISO should be in large enough quantities at Walmart, Home Depot, Lowes, etc.
It's no big deal really.

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scooter wrote:

Can someone set me straight about Apple Cider, Apple Sauce, and Apple Cider Sauce? I know all the ingredients such as SH, H2o, Alcohol, TSP, Borax, Dove and so forth, but which combination belongs with each name? And yes I have been reading, reading, and reading. It seams like everyone has there on concoction and trying to keep it all straight in my head is getting a little confusing. Thanks for all the help. Great Forum...

Ok, here goes.
Apple Sauce - SH, TSP, Borax, Water

Apple Cider - SH, Ajax or Dawn, Rubbing Alcohol, Water

Both clean well, Sauce gives longer lasting results because of the Borax, but is harder to mix because of the TSP and Borax.
Also gotta really pay attention to plants because of the Borax!

Cider is much easier to make, cleans well too.

There are variations of these recipes, and you will start a "fist fight" on RCIA if you asked what mix is best

You CAN "clean" with only SH and Water.
But just as you would not use bleach alone to wash laundry, most of us feel we need other cleaners in the mix.

The newest of these other cleaners is a chlorine stable surfactant called Amonyx LO.

BCRoofClean · Guest

Thanks Don. I actually was surprised to find it in walmart in such big containers. Got some today!

Evergreen · Guest

Going to do the first few roofs with apple cider and see if we need to adjust with adding TSP! Tahnks for all the advice and info everyone!

xtype · Guest

Hello

I'm new to all of this and am trying to start a new business as soon as possible.

I have a few questions, in regards. I have seen the Apple Cider Sauce recipe thats been posted by Pressure Washing Pro (THANK YOU!) and am looking to incorporate the Ammonyx Lo into it but I'm not sure how it fits in? Could someone help me out with the subsitutions needed?

Secondly, I will be having someone work for me to apply the formula and will need workmans compensation insurance . Does anybod have any recommendations or people they haved used who are reasonable in their rates but reliable? I also need liability insurance as well? Maybe a package deal?

Thank you all for your time!

Rod

Roger · Premium Member Roof Cleaning Institute of America

Go to the search bar and put in, billy bob, if I remember right there is a recipe that is listed there

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I will need to call Lori on Monday and ask about getting some of this Ammonyx Lo. I have a supplier up here. He delivers get my SH, OAXLIC POWDER to my warehouse , wondering if he can get it by the 55 gl drum for me if need be. Lori I will call you on Monday though and chat with ya about the billy bob of love.

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning of Virginia Beach, VA 757-650-7456. on Friday 12th of March 2010 08:24:26 PM

nuvision · Guest

quick question, for the apple cider sauce it calls for 1/2 bottle of ultra concentrated dawn, so what size bottle, how many ounces?

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nuvision wrote:

quick question, for the apple cider sauce it calls for 1/2 bottle of ultra concentrated dawn, so what size bottle, how many ounces?

how many different size bottles can there possibly be. Do you think it will matter if it is a little more or a little less? quit asking retarded questions.

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Walk wrote:

nuvision wrote:

quick question, for the apple cider sauce it calls for 1/2 bottle of ultra concentrated dawn, so what size bottle, how many ounces?

how many different size bottles can there possibly be. Do you think it will matter if it is a little more or a little less? quit asking silly questions. Silly questions makes this board look like a forum for home owners instead of professionals especially when so many new people are here at once...

Please try to keep this place prefessional. People from all over visit here.

Roof Cleaning Collegeville PA · Guest

Walk wrote:

Walk wrote:

nuvision wrote:

quick question, for the apple cider sauce it calls for 1/2 bottle of ultra concentrated dawn, so what size bottle, how many ounces?

how many different size bottles can there possibly be. Do you think it will matter if it is a little more or a little less? quit asking silly questions. Silly questions makes this board look like a forum for home owners instead of professionals especially when so many new people are here at once...

Please try to keep this place prefessional. People from all over visit here.

I'll tolerate a silly question before a nasty and inappropriate response.
The answer to the question about soap is: You may not want to bother with soap - go with the "Billy-Bob" instead. Look it up in the search feature. The search field is GOLD!

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Collegeville PA on Wednesday 31st of March 2010 09:48:28 PM

Ohio Roof Cleaning · Guest

Is there a reason the Borax in Apple Sauce is left out when using alcohol in Apple Cider Sauce?

MackMan · Guest

This is great news in that my partner and I are looking for a good chemical to use here in NJ. We're spending way too much time on the roof - approximately 4 hours using Roof-A-Cide. We're rinsing each individual shingle! Will Apple Cider really wash away the stain - quickly?

Roof Cleaning Collegeville PA · Guest

Rinsing a roof is something that we rarely do (we let the rain rinse for us). The "love" aka roof mix will kill the algae quickly but, you will have to wait for a good rain storm to see the finished product. However, you will notice a HUGE improvement in the look of the roof after only 15-20 minutes. Customers will gladly hand over a check even before the roof has time to dry. We charge $.35 per sq. ft. because working with SH is pretty dangerous. Here in Montgomery county PA, the roof pitches are fairly steep so, we often have to charge even more. This is surely NOT a glamorous way to make a living - I think that it's downright nasty but, there is money to be made if you can tolerate the "stuff" that goes along with it.
IMHO, switch to using the Love. It works WAY better then anything out there and ARMA stands behind this method of cleaning.

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Collegeville PA on Monday 5th of April 2010 12:01:45 PM

propressurewashing · Guest

I generally keep my mix more simple and it works well. I just use straight germicidal bleach from HD and simple cherry. On steeper roofs I sometimes have to add some dish detergent at the end so it clings better. 12% shc is soooo expensive around here.

Daniel Simmons
Pressure Washing Houston
Katy Pressure Washing

Midtown · Guest

Ohio Roof Cleaning wrote:

Is there a reason the Borax in Apple Sauce is left out when using alcohol in Apple Cider Sauce?

no, you could add it.

RCIA Founder

propressurewashing wrote:

I generally keep my mix more simple and it works well. I just use straight germicidal bleach from HD and simple cherry. On steeper roofs I sometimes have to add some dish detergent at the end so it clings better. 12% shc is soooo expensive around here.

Daniel Simmons
Pressure Washing Houston
Katy Pressure Washing

Simple Cherry is not as good, compared to Ammonyx LO and/or TSP.
It was a better then nothing housewash product, and some used for roof cleaning, before they found out other stuff works better.
It was never popular here in florida, most guys down here just used Dawn Ultra, until finding better ways.
Ammonyx LO will smoke dish soap, and from what the house cleaners tell me, will do a great house wash too!
Many of my friends in Florida just use IT, and only for really dirty roofs add 1/4 cup TSP per gallon to that mix, and carry some Rubbing Alcohol when mix really needs a kick in da azz.

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Midtown wrote:

Ohio Roof Cleaning wrote:

Is there a reason the Borax in Apple Sauce is left out when using alcohol in Apple Cider Sauce?

no, you could add it.

Sure, you can add it, but apple cider was developed as an EASY to make mix, compared to apple sauce. Borax and TSP dissolve MUCH better in hot water. The Borax in Apple Sauce takes advantage of the "film effect"of TSP. spray some TSP/water mix on windows, see what we mean, LOL
Now, the Borax "gets trapped" in the TSP film, and provides a longer lasting roof cleaning. Plus, Borax is a potent cleaner, all on it's own. Think not, wash your hands with it sometime, that is why we have Borax hand soap.
Borax is ALSO an anti insect device, Insects HATE it !
I know a guy on ss disability, who makes extra money by offering to "imsect and mildew proof" alll surfaces !
he sprays em with a Borax/water mix
Got to remember Borax has Boron in it, and will kill the fuk out of plants if not watered really really well ?

Honest to god, a Borax Water spray will help prevent spider webs and mud daubers, wasps, etc, etc.
Some boric acid sprinkled around an outside house frame will eliminate bugs, for real!

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