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RE: APPLE CIDER SAUCE

H2OCleaning · Guest

100 gallon mix
with ammonyx Lo
steep pitch 1/3 gallon ammonyx
normal pitch 1 quart or less ammonyx

100 gallon mix
with floramask
shingle strenth 35gallons of SH use 9oz of floramask
tile strenth 50gallons 13oz

the ratio is 500 to 1
50 gallons of SH is 6400oz divide by 500 = 12.8oz

H2OCleaning · Guest

the true cost affect is that i doesnt attack the SH no more week mix so you can apply less coat in some cases and what you dont use will still be good two weeks later

idontknow · Guest

Ok I get it now ammonyx Lo, AKA (also known as) Lauryldimethylamine Oxide cas number 1643-20-5, AKA LAURAMINE OXIDE
I know what to look for now

Sorry but for us little Australians trying to work out what products are what can be confusing, different names, availability etc. You name a product and we have to spend a week trying to find it here in OZ
Most of the roofs here are about 80% tile, 20% tin (colorbond steel), shingles roofs are few and far between. The reason why I brought this subject up is that being mostly tile roofs I would need a good mix to clean them right the first time, I had my doughts about the old dishwashing liquid doing the job, when I do a job I want it done well and done right the first time, as in all business "image is your business" get it right the first time and look like a pro, go back the second time and look like an idiot.
Cheers

Reliable Roof Cleaning Jacksonville FL · Guest

Billy

Thanks for all the work regarding ammonyx lo. I'll have to contact Lori and get a gallon and try it myself. I'm using a Delevan 5850 with 5/8" hose. Only way to know for sure how it will work with my equipment is give it a test. Hopefully this spring I will be able to upgrade to an air operated pump.

Charles

Ohio Roof Cleaning · Guest

Thanks Billy! Does Lori have the florachem also?

H2OCleaning · Guest

i think so if not she will very soon

guest

does any one know if there is different grades of TSP I got a price of 60.00 for 50 LBs

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Walk wrote:

does any one know if there is different grades of TSP I got a price of 60.00 for 50 LBs

This new Amonyx LO Surfactant MAY make TSP obsolete ?

But TSP is TSP, pretty much, for OUR roof cleaning purposes.

TSP is at a high PH, and does slightly improve a weak chlorine/water mix, since it raises the PH a bit.

Not aware of the PH of Amonyx, yet, and if it is also stable in Sodium Hydroxide as well ?

Sodium Hydroxide will also raise PH, and adds to the cleaning, as long as you dont add TOO much.

Maybe a killer roof cleaning chemical will be chlorine/water with Amonyx LO added, plus a gallon of Sodium Hydroxide to raise PH a tad ?

Always experiment, push the state of the roof cleaning art.

H2OCleaning · Guest

i was thinking of trying SH- ammonyx some sodium hydroxide and ISO how much sodium hydroxide should i try in a 50gallon mix of 50/50

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H2OCleaning wrote:

i was thinking of trying SH- ammonyx some sodium hydroxide and ISO how much sodium hydroxide should i try in a 50gallon mix of 50/50

1/2 Gallon of Hydroxide should do nicely ?

garyw · Nov 2, 2009

H2OCleaning wrote:

latest price of ammonyx Lo was about $13 a gal but use about half of what you would with dawn it very thick

-- Edited by H2OCleaning on Sunday 1st of November 2009 09:39:00 PM

Either you or Lori have your prices way out of line. Talked to Lori this morning and she quoted me a price under$2.00 a gal., she thought! Hope she's right and your wrong biggrin wink .
Maybe it was just Monday morning, for both of us.
She does not have it yet but is trying to get it.

H2OCleaning · Guest

no i was probably a monday thing or she misunder stood you but $2 a gallon would be great it will be about $13 or so last place i found it i had to pay $84 for 5gallons

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H2OCleaning wrote:

no i was probably a monday thing or she misunder stood you but $2 a gallon would be great it will be about $13 or so last place i found it i had to pay $84 for 5gallons

Yeah, but 5 gallons will go a long way.

garyw · Nov 4, 2009

Most, if not all photos on here showing a roof being cleaned, there is what seems to be a lot of foam. Is this caused by the SH working, the Dawn, TSP or the combination of all combined. I get a small amount of the white foam, but nothing like what I see in the Pictures. Help!!
Gary

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garyw wrote:

Most, if not all photos on here showing a roof being cleaned, there is what seems to be a lot of foam. Is this caused by the SH working, the Dawn, TSP or the combination of all combined. I get a small amount of the white foam, but nothing like what I see in the Pictures. Help!!
Gary

Seems to foam more on hot days, and hot roofs.

Ohio Roof Cleaning · Guest

I was thinking the white foam was from the Dawn. Any other thoughts on that?

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BillT wrote:

I was thinking the white foam was from the Dawn. Any other thoughts on that?

TSP will foam too, as will most surfactants.

PowerClean · Guest

BillT wrote:

I was thinking the white foam was from the Dawn. Any other thoughts on that?

You can add more TSP and Dawn to your mix (especially if it's a steep pitch or tile roof) but it will weaken your SH. Play around with it.

Hint: I have one of my guys stir the mix for me on occasion while treating a large roof or steep one just to be sure nothing is separating and also to re-activate the suds.

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PowerClean wrote:

BillT wrote:

I was thinking the white foam was from the Dawn. Any other thoughts on that?

You can add more TSP and Dawn to your mix (especially if it's a steep pitch or tile roof) but it will weaken your SH. Play around with it.
Hint: I have one of my guys stir the mix for me on occasion while treating a large roof or steep one just to be sure nothing is separating and also to re-activate the suds.

The TSP will not weaken the mix, but Dawn will, over time.
When using TSP, it is a good idea to add some hot water to a tank w/o adding any more TSP, to re activate the left over TSP.

It is also a great idea to re stir the tank before every job too, as you posted!

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