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RE: APPLE CIDER SAUCE

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PowerClean wrote:

Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

PowerClean wrote:

BillT wrote:

I was thinking the white foam was from the Dawn. Any other thoughts on that?

You can add more TSP and Dawn to your mix (especially if it's a steep pitch or tile roof) but it will weaken your SH. Play around with it.
Hint: I have one of my guys stir the mix for me on occasion while treating a large roof or steep one just to be sure nothing is separating and also to re-activate the suds.

The TSP will not weaken the mix, but Dawn will, over time.
When using TSP, it is a good idea to add some hot water to a tank w/o adding any more TSP, to re activate the left over TSP.

It is also a great idea to re stir the tank before every job too, as you posted!

I actually just tried that because I know the TSP takes forever to dissolve anyway, But I did it because I did not want to add too much more strength to my mix since and it was COLD out. Worked great!

It is always pretty warm here in Tampa, Florida.
But several who clean roofs up north, in the cold, simply use hot water AT the job.
IOW, they get hot water either AT the job, or from a hot water pressure washer.

Some even wet the roof down with warm water I am told ?

Don't go crazy with hot water on a roof and melt the shingles, LOL

But water up to 130 degrees should be fine ?

Roof Temps can easily get there anyway in the summer sun.

H2OCleaning · Guest

i used a lazer temp thingey one day this summer on a red tile roof that was black it read about 180s when we started and 140s when we were done so now i tell people roof cleaning is free it pays for its self every month when you get yor electric bill

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H2OCleaning wrote:

i used a lazer temp thingey one day this summer on a red tile roof that was black it read about 180s when we started and 140s when we were done so now i tell people roof cleaning is free it pays for its self every month when you get yor electric bill

I Used to have an energy study proving it, but my old computer crashed.
Yes, roof cleaning does save energy!

5am · Guest

I dug this for you. This is great.

Guest

Wow, what are the chances of that? Two companies called Portland Window Cleaning on one forum confuse .

Mike, I see that you just joined the forum. Did you happen to see that there is another member here with the same company name as yours? Do you find that customers confuse the two companies? Although as I'm typing this I see that you have added "By TWC" What does the TWC stand for?

You guys should try to hook up and make one giant PORTLAND WINDOW CLEANING CONGLOMERATE!

roof cleaning I love that little dancing guy!

-- Edited by The Roof Cleaners of Chester County Pennsylvania 610-842-2104 on Saturday 21st of November 2009 05:32:17 PM

williamwinn1 · Guest

if you go to owens corning or gaf web site you will see that bleach is the ONLY chemical they recommend with a few additaves that they each preffer

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The new Amonyx LO Chlorine Stable Surfactant shows great promise.

Look at THIS !!

CHLORINATED
FOAMING
CLEANER

HIGH FOAMING CONCENTRATE

WITH CHLORINE BLEACH FOR

MAXIMUM CLEANING POWER

WARNING
CAUSES SEVERE BURNS.

HARMFUL IF SWALLOWED.

See side panel for additional precautions

and first aid instructions.

KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN

Sold By:

This concentrated cleaning product is

formulated with the grease and stain

cutting power of chlorine. Designed for

use in a wide variety of applications and

dilution ratios for economical and

versatile performance. Create a clinging

foam when used with any appropriate

foam generating equipment.

DIRECTIONS

Dilute concentrate with warm or cold

water. Use 1 part concentrate diluted

with 8 to 10 parts of water when

extreme cleaning power is required. Use

dilutions of up to 1:50 for lighter

cleaning chores. Dilution ratios may be

adjusted to give the desired results and

speed or cleaning with the application

method employed. This product will

produce a thick clinging foam when

applied with foam generating sprayers.

WARNING
CAUSES SEVERE BURNS

HARMFUL IF SWALLOWED.

Contains Potassium Hydroxide and Sodium

Hypochlorite. Avoid contact with eyes, skin,

mucous membranes and clothing. Do not mix

with acids or any other cleaning compounds.

Avoid prolonged or repeated contact with skin.

FIRST AID
IF SWALLOWED:

IF IN EYES:

IF ON SKIN:

IF INHALED:

See M.S.D.S. for complete safety information.
KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN
Handling & Storage:

0690.011606
NET CONTENTS:
❒
5 ❒ 6 ❒ 20 ❒ 30 ❒ 55
GALLONS
This Product Contains CAS Number
Water . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7732-18-5
Potassium Hydroxide . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1310-58-3
Sodium Tripolyphosphate . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7758-29-4
Sodium Hypochlorite . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7681-52-9
Lauramine Oxide . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1643-20-5
NFPA

® RATINGS
Flammability
Reactivity

Keep container tightly closed
when not in use. Avoid excess heat and open flame.
Do not store in unmarked containers. Rinse empty
container before recycling container.
Remove person to fresh air. If
irritation is persistent, contact a physician.
Wash skin with soap and water.
Remove all contaminated clothing and launder
separately before reuse. If irritation is
persistent, contact a physician.
Flush eyes with water for at least 15
minutes. If irritation is persistent, contact a
physician.
Contact a physician or poison

control center immediately. DO NOT induce

vomiting.

-- Edited by Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 on Monday 23rd of November 2009 01:01:48 AM

PowerClean · Guest

Chris, think Lori sold you guys some? Have you tried it yet??

This stuff sounds amazing! biggrin

Could save so much time and money! I'm curious about the foaming action...

RCIA Founder

PowerClean wrote:

Chris, think Lori sold you guys some? Have you tried it yet??

This stuff sounds amazing! Could save so much time and money! I'm curious about the foaming action...

I did not get mine from Lori initially, but I did order some from her,
It cleans real well, like NP 9, just gotta be careful not to use too much.
It can be a PITA to rinse if too much is used.
Like NP 9, it leaves a visible film on the roof if too much is used.

But used sparingly, it really makes a beautiful roof cleaning job.

The post about the foamer is a commercial product that contains Amonyx LO.
Actually Amonyx LO is really Lauramine Oxide!

GALLONS

This Product Contains CAS Number

Water . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7732-18-5

Potassium Hydroxide . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1310-58-3

Sodium Tripolyphosphate . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7758-29-4

Sodium Hypochlorite . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7681-52-9

Lauramine Oxide . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1643-20-5

-- Edited by Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 on Monday 23rd of November 2009 12:07:29 PM

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Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

PowerClean wrote:

Chris, think Lori sold you guys some? Have you tried it yet??

This stuff sounds amazing! Could save so much time and money! I'm curious about the foaming action...

I did not get mine from Lori initially, but I did order some from her,
It cleans real well, like NP 9, just gotta be careful not to use too much.
It can be a PITA to rinse if too much is used.
Like NP 9, it leaves a visible film on the roof if too much is used.

But used sparingly, it really makes a beautiful roof cleaning job.

The post about the foamer is a commercial product that contains Amonyx LO.
Actually Amonyx LO is really Lauramine Oxide!

GALLONS
Chris what would be your sparing mixing instructions?
This Product Contains CAS NumberWater . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7732-18-5
Potassium Hydroxide . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1310-58-3
Sodium Tripolyphosphate . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7758-29-4
Sodium Hypochlorite . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7681-52-9
Lauramine Oxide . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1643-20-5

-- Edited by Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 on Monday 23rd of November 2009 12:07:29 PM

PowerClean · Guest

Walk wrote:

Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

PowerClean wrote:

Chris, think Lori sold you guys some? Have you tried it yet??

This stuff sounds amazing! Could save so much time and money! I'm curious about the foaming action...

I did not get mine from Lori initially, but I did order some from her,
It cleans real well, like NP 9, just gotta be careful not to use too much.
It can be a PITA to rinse if too much is used.
Like NP 9, it leaves a visible film on the roof if too much is used.

But used sparingly, it really makes a beautiful roof cleaning job.

The post about the foamer is a commercial product that contains Amonyx LO.
Actually Amonyx LO is really Lauramine Oxide!

GALLONS
Chris what would be your sparing mixing instructions?
This Product Contains CAS NumberWater . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7732-18-5
Potassium Hydroxide . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1310-58-3
Sodium Tripolyphosphate . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7758-29-4
Sodium Hypochlorite . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7681-52-9
Lauramine Oxide . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1643-20-5

-- Edited by Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 on Monday 23rd of November 2009 12:07:29 PM
Sounds good, thanks for that post Clyde. I'll check it out. Been getting a ton of steep tile lately and I'm thinking this could save me some re-applications if it clings even just a tad bit better?

Oh where, oh where, are you Chris Tucker?? Stayin' busy and feeling better I hope?

RCIA Founder

PowerClean wrote:

Walk wrote:

Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

PowerClean wrote:

Chris, think Lori sold you guys some? Have you tried it yet??

This stuff sounds amazing! Could save so much time and money! I'm curious about the foaming action...

I did not get mine from Lori initially, but I did order some from her,
It cleans real well, like NP 9, just gotta be careful not to use too much.
It can be a PITA to rinse if too much is used.
Like NP 9, it leaves a visible film on the roof if too much is used.

But used sparingly, it really makes a beautiful roof cleaning job.

The post about the foamer is a commercial product that contains Amonyx LO.
Actually Amonyx LO is really Lauramine Oxide!

GALLONS
Chris what would be your sparing mixing instructions?
This Product Contains CAS NumberWater . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7732-18-5
Potassium Hydroxide . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1310-58-3
Sodium Tripolyphosphate . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7758-29-4
Sodium Hypochlorite . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7681-52-9
Lauramine Oxide . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1643-20-5

-- Edited by Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 on Monday 23rd of November 2009 12:07:29 PM
Sounds good, thanks for that post Clyde. I'll check it out. Been getting a ton of steep tile lately and I'm thinking this could save me some re-applications if it clings even just a tad bit better?

Oh where, oh where, are you Chris Tucker?? Stayin' busy and feeling better I hope?

I have been fishing, and working on my boat.

The formula Walk commented on is a commercial formula that uses Lauramine Oxide better known as Amonyx LO
No real need for the other stuff in the commercial product for our use.

We just kinda eyeball it, but I use from 1/3 to 1/2 gallons Amonyx LO per 100 gallons roof cleaning mix.

For tile roofs, we go to 1/2 to 1 gallon per 100 gallons roof cleaning mix.

STEEP shingle roofs use 1 gallon Amonyx per 100 gallons mix.
On a 12/12 pitch roof, we used one and a half gallons Amonyx LO to 100 gallons mix, and it stuck like glue!

At that concentration, it left a surfactant film, needed a good rain.
When rinsed by the rain, the roof looked incredible.

TSP is real good for cleaning, but a PITA to mix.
I really like the Amonyx LO surfactant, and I feel it gives pretty much as good results as strong TSP roof cleaning solutions, w/o all the hassle!

I have also found that the addition of some Sodium Hydroxide aids cleaning of filthy Tile roofs.
A couple of gallons of 50 percent Sodium Hydroxide added to 100 gallons mix makes quick work of filthy tile roofs.

We carry Rubbing Alcohol, but only for the really dirty shingle roofs.
Most of the time, we are currently using only using the Amonyx LO in our cleaning mix.

A Chlorine Stable Surfactant like Amonyx LO has long been the "holy graille" for a roof cleaner.
It is not expensive at all, and WAY WAY better then using Dawn, or any dishsoap.

It is my opinion that Amonyx LO will change roof cleaning, the same way the Delevan Fat Boy pump did.

17 years ago, I could only DREAM of a roof cleaning pump like the fat boy, and a Chlorine Stable Roof Cleaning Surfactant like Amonyx LO.

H2OCleaning · Guest

im glad to here people using and liking the ammonyx lo and im happy to here its replacing TSP an added bonus. like i said before im happy to be able give somthing back i believe chris started the RCIA because he belives that we are smarter as one group than one person i thing he made his point

Ohio Roof Cleaning · Guest

WOW! Ammonyx lo can replace the TSP too?! Sounds too good to be true! I can't wait to give it shot! I vote we abbreviate it though. How about ALO or AMLO?

RCIA Founder

H2OCleaning wrote:

im glad to here people using and liking the ammonyx lo and im happy to here its replacing TSP an added bonus. like i said before im happy to be able give somthing back i believe chris started the RCIA because he belives that we are smarter as one group than one person i thing he made his point

Yeah Billy, YOU found it !!
I found another chlorine stable surfactant, but it was FAR to expensive for us roof cleaners to use on a daily bassis.
Hats off to you for finding the lower priced, but equally effective Amonyx LO !
Jump in here with YOUR experiences with it Billy ?
THIS is the most viewed thread in RCIA History.

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Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

H2OCleaning wrote:

im glad to here people using and liking the ammonyx lo and im happy to here its replacing TSP an added bonus. like i said before im happy to be able give somthing back i believe chris started the RCIA because he belives that we are smarter as one group than one person i thing he made his point

Yeah Billy, YOU found it !!
I found another chlorine stable surfactant, but it was FAR to expensive for us roof cleaners to use on a daily bassis.
Hats off to you for finding the lower priced, but equally effective Amonyx LO !
Jump in here with YOUR experiences with it Billy ?
THIS is the most viewed thread in RCIA History.

Billy how do you mix the amonyx Lo just add it to the chlorine then add water with a hose and blend it a bit or mix good, could you please explain?\\\

H2OCleaning · Guest

i dont add water my pump does it for me but for you i would put SH in water then add ammonyx then stir it seem to all mix better that way when i was testing it

RCIA Founder

BillT wrote:

WOW! Ammonyx lo can replace the TSP too?! Sounds too good to be true! I can't wait to give it shot! I vote we abbreviate it though. How about ALO or AMLO?

Since Billy Jensen found it, why dont we call it the "Billy Bob" ??

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Billy Bob it is..

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