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Roof Cleaning New Jersey · Feb 5, 2013

RE: Thoughts about this?

Roof Cleaning New Jersey · Feb 5, 2013

Everything that has transpired in the last 2 years is somewhat connected to everything. Past problems has a lot to do with how many are feeling today. Theres been a lot of back room deals and secret meetings. Many have there own agenda and unfortunately this world is full of people who will do whatever it takes to further their own interest. No one should be surprised at all when guys start screaming about this directory and what could potentially have been the motive.

sweetwaterfish · Guest

Roof Cleaning New Jersey wrote:

Diamond Roof Cleaning New Jersey (1-800-Roof-Clean) wrote:
Yep. I have been saying this for over a yr. Why do you think they wanted AC out of the way on here.
Thats the other end of it Mike. I'll never grasp what really happened there.

Ed, I think It makes a lot more sense now. The people who were active in the ouster of AC Lockyer Are doing the same damn thing they were accusing him of trying to do. I'm tired of holding my tongue about this. This has gotten absolutely ridiculous. It feels like I am paying money to someone to try and compete against me. And I've not even bought spots on the map. I can't imagine how you guys are feeling right now.

I hate to get ugly and I hate to raise Too much hell, for fear of hurting or upsetting Chris Tucker. His only problem in this issue is that he listened to a bunch of folks who frankly had nefarious plans For their old self gain.

To all you folks who didn't like AC Lockyer and complained so much, at least he wasn't charging you to compete against you in your own backyard and try to sell you referrals That you should be entitled to.

And this latest fiasco is going to turn a few more of the talented members of RCIA away. We can't afford the brain drain on this board anymore.

Chris, shut it down and take it back!

sweetwaterfish · Guest

When I look at what the RCIA has become today, I feel like that Indian from the 70s TV commercial who looking the Landfill and tear slowly starts to roll down his cheek.

Liberty SoftWash · Feb 5, 2013

Yea I spent over 300 for the maps and I have a roof cleaner copying the site map and competing against me. Let me copy and put the site map on my web page!!!

Mr Maintenance · Feb 5, 2013

Im in no possition to make comments about something that is beyound my intellagence. Im not stupid and Im certainly dont wear blinders but I do wonder why my name is on this list. I will say this and it may not sit well with some of you, but the uglys have always done right buy me and have never tossed me under the bus. Last year I got 2 roof cleanings from them because they referred the customer to me. I always try to take a wait and see attitude and let things unfold, and then I make my move and when I move it is swiftand decisive like a Lion on a gazel. It has been a long winter here in NH and Im looking forward to a better year this year and I hope that the all of us have a great season. So lets take a back seat and see what the explanation is for all of this. Sorry if I have rained on anyones parade

Liberty SoftWash · Feb 5, 2013

I am not here to piss off anyone. I have been here since 08 and just see a lot of changing going on. I think if you ask money from MEMBERS we should have some say as to what goes on with the forum. There have been some post as to where the ugly were not running it any more then they are back. Just trying to figure out what is going on with RCIA/ugly.

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Diamond Roof Cleaning New Jersey (1-800-Roof-Clean) wrote:
Yeah. Why the hell am i on their sitemap

If it's a do-follow link, then it's a good thing Mike. If it's no-follow, then it's moot.

Guest

Ted but the funny thing is they don't like me and I nor them.

Mr Maintenance · Feb 5, 2013

Roof Cleaning By A&E wrote:
I am not here to piss off anyone. I have been here since 08 and just see a lot of changing going on. I think if you ask money from MEMBERS we should have some say as to what goes on with the forum. There have been some post as to where the ugly were not running it any more then they are back. Just trying to figure out what is going on with RCIA/ugly.

Eric

I cant say enough good things about you as a member, you have done way more than your fair share and lord knows you have helped me. And I mean you have gone out of your way to help me, and I doubt anyone is pissed off at you or thinks you are a trouble maker. But a knoble and wise man once told me ( Keep your eyes on the prize brother) wait... that was ed thompson....scratch the knoble wise man stuff.. Just keep focused on your business plan and keep moving forward and if something comes from this and the uglys are kicking you in the teeth then handle it...Buy the way, on a seperate note A&E showes up ocassionally on searches here in NH...stay out of NH eric...LOL

Liberty SoftWash · Feb 6, 2013

Thanks for the kind words Brian!!

sweetwaterfish · Guest

Well when I click on the Tallahassee Link it goes to a page advertising ugly shingles in Tallahassee Florida. The way I see it, my Forum dues here are subsidizing another company's National advertising campaign against me to compete against me in my own market. Am I stupid for looking at it this way, if so please explain the error in my logic!

Liberty SoftWash · Feb 6, 2013

sweetwaterfish wrote:
Well when I click on the Tallahassee Link it goes to a page advertising ugly shingles in Tallahassee Florida. The way I see it, my Forum dues here are subsidizing another company's National advertising campaign against me to compete against me in my own market. Am I stupid for looking at it this way, if so please explain the error in my logic!

Thats what I am saying!!!

Liberty SoftWash · Feb 6, 2013

Diamond Roof Cleaning New Jersey (1-800-Roof-Clean) wrote:
Eric we all know the person everybody hates is me. Oh wait its just gary that hates me. Never mind.

At this point is anyone going to believe what they say anyway.

-- Edited by Diamond Roof Cleaning New Jersey (1-800-Roof-Clean) on Tuesday 5th of February 2013 04:02:22 PM

Mike you are loved on my end!!

Ray- Thats exactly the point I am trying to make!

gutterdog · Feb 6, 2013

This whole thing has my head spinning. I aint nowhere near as smart. I did a search in Baltimore just out of curiosity other day.

larrykilby · Feb 6, 2013

Hows the saying go? you can fool some of the people some of the time but you cant fool all the people all of the time

sweetwaterfish · Guest

How's this old saying go.... RCIA won't get another friggin DIME of my money until this is rectified.

Basically they've taken the membership list and tried to open up shop against all of us.

Guest

As I just said no matter what they say it will most likely go in one ear and out the other. Thanks for all you have done uglies. Not.

Guest

That is why there should have been a 3 rd party do the work. And if Chris couldn't afford it then it should not have been done.

garyw · Feb 6, 2013

Roof Cleaning Northern Virginia (571) 250 9650 wrote:

I don't have a horse in this race guys, but at least let's collect facts and try to be unbiased until things are more clear - for everyone's sake?

That sitemap is from their website. Not the RCIA. Frankly it's their business. And the city pages outside of the Michigan area? They've been there for at least a year. I found out when looking in to Great FAlls VA and found them advertising for Great Falls Montanna. It's a SEO/page index ploy, nothing more. Good for them!

Anyone stop to think that some of the things pointed out may have been agreed to by Chris, since Bob and Steve committed to spending lots of time tweaking on the forum? I'd want something for my time too. Chris will chime in when he's ready. He's a man of peace and doesn't care for conflict. ((Chris in yoga pose visual here))

Let's not rush to judgement, eh?

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Northern Virginia (571) 250 9650 on Tuesday 5th of February 2013 04:40:21 PM

Excellent try Ted, but I've tried that approach numerous times before with NO luck. The mob mentality has already clicked in.

Nobody seems to remember the leads Uglies have posted on here that came directly from their site through what everybody is bitching about. Does anybody truly believe they are going to start traveling around the country doing jobs? They are trying to help other members get jobs through their well organized website and marketing. If you want to see how this will benefit only you, build a list like they have and promote it. Your PERSONAL benefit will be dis-appointing.

I don't have a horse in this race and could really care less. It just pisses me off the way some go overboard with dreamt up stories and drive members away. Talk about a hidden agenda???? Two years in a row disbelief

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