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I used to use the alflow and my biggest problem was the compressor itself. I recently switched over to the 5850 and I have to say I'm impressed. I switched over in late march and I used the chit out of that one pump. It has well over 200 roofs and over 30 house washes on it. Not to mention the last job we did which was 28000sq ft of roof cleaning and 26000 sq ft of stucco and dryvitt commercial cleaning. That pump has at least done over 150000 in work for us. I also have another 5850 plumbed up to transfer my sh out of the drums to our 65 gallon tank on the trailer. So I see it as the best 134.00 I have spent in 5 yr being in business.

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I used to use the alflow and my biggest problem was the compressor itself. I recently switched over to the 5850 and I have to say I'm impressed. I switched over in late march and I used the chit out of that one pump. It has well over 200 roofs and over 30 house washes on it. Not to mention the last job we did which was 28000sq ft of roof cleaning and 26000 sq ft of stucco and dryvitt commercial cleaning. That pump has at least done over 150000 in work for us. I also have another 5850 plumbed up to transfer my sh out of the drums to our 65 gallon tank on the trailer. So I see it as the best 134.00 I have spent in 5 yr being in business.


I'd say that's a pretty decent return on investment. Do you use an accumulator? I think Ed said he ditched his but others (myself included) swear by them. And do you use a hose reel? If so what kind and how much maintenece does it require? Reason I ask, and Ted recommended doing so, is I'm trying to prevent the problem before it arrives. I called Titan and they told me to go through PT for any replacement parts. 



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I bypass the reel for roof cleaning and just use it for storage.

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I bypass the reel for roof cleaning and just use it for storage.


I saw that on your video actually. I forgot about it but remember when I saw it I told myself I'm gonna copy! Very helpful btw!



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No accumulator and I was using the hose reel untill it starting leaking inside I then used quick connects and used the reel to just roll up. The stainless steel guts and welds just can't hold up to the sh

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Diamond Roof Cleaning New Jersey (1-800-Roof-Clean) wrote:

No accumulator and I was using the hose reel untill it starting leaking inside I then used quick connects and used the reel to just roll up. The stainless steel guts and welds just can't hold up to the sh


 And, the bastards at Titan Hose Reels are very much aware of this problem too. IMHO, you did the right thing, JUST use the reel for storage, cause IMHO, that's all they are good for! 

WE do not use hose reels at alll anymore, even for storage. WE do maybe 2 to 3 roof cleaning jobs a day, and have plastic boxes on our flatbed trucks, that hold our tarps. We simply wrap the hose around them. The LESS amount of connections in a roof cleaning hose, the better, as far as leak potential, we have found.



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does anyone know if you can buy just the guts of the hose reels? like just the manifold part? 



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I bought one from Lori @pressurewasherproducts.com for a Titan reel.



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Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 wrote:

I bought one from Lori @pressurewasherproducts.com for a Titan reel.


 perfect!! I have no issues with just buying new manifolds every year.. cost of doing business.



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Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 wrote:

I bought one from Lori @pressurewasherproducts.com for a Titan reel.


 perfect!! I have no issues with just buying new manifolds every year.. cost of doing business.

I bought one as a spare, but you have to remember when they spring a leak in the middle of a job, you have a mess on your hands. no

It will take a good hour to remove the hose from your reel and change out the manifold.

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Eric's video is perfect. One of the things I budgeted to do before the season starts. Which isn't a big list!

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Mike, We need to hook up before the spring. I will bring my truck to show you and we can shoot the chit!

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Hey, Joe..when you get a replacement manifold you will notice a piss poor design. The manifold pipe is open, meaning when you send SH out your hose it fills the manifold pipe. The pipe is the width of the hose reel, but we only really need from the supply end out the 90 (hose), which is about 4-5". I know the other end of the pipe is capped, But I feel we are filling most of this section with SH. When I flush my system every night, am I really flushing ALL of the SH out?- I doubt it. Chris has talked about the SS welds which fail, but I'm still using them!

 

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Bruce Weber wrote:
jcstomper wrote:
Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 wrote:

I bought one from Lori @pressurewasherproducts.com for a Titan reel.


 perfect!! I have no issues with just buying new manifolds every year.. cost of doing business.

I bought one as a spare, but you have to remember when they spring a leak in the middle of a job, you have a mess on your hands. no

It will take a good hour to remove the hose from your reel and change out the manifold.

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 true true totally understand that... the one i have this year isnt leaking, but the 90 on the end where the main hose connects is starting too... I can tell if i try to take that 90 off its goign to snap.. so if i just replace the manifold every year i think i shouldnt have any issues with it leaking during the season.. or so i hope.. i can just make it a once a year replacement part and do it every winter whether it starts leaking or not...



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Bruce Weber wrote:

Hey, Joe..when you get a replacement manifold you will notice a piss poor design. The manifold pipe is open, meaning when you send SH out your hose it fills the manifold pipe. The pipe is the width of the hose reel, but we only really need from the supply end out the 90 (hose), which is about 4-5". I know the other end of the pipe is capped, But I feel we are filling most of this section with SH. When I flush my system every night, am I really flushing ALL of the SH out?- I doubt it. Chris has talked about the SS welds which fail, but I'm still using them!

 

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-- Edited by Bruce Weber on Friday 4th of January 2013 10:30:22 AM


 totally hear what your saying.. but when we flush, we flush like crazy men... i flush till i feel just water coming out.. and then flush for another few minutes lol.. its real easy on my rig because all i need to do is turn a 3 way valve to start flushing with fresh water...... no disconnects or anything.. i have a 150 reserve water tank for our PW's to soft wash homes with... so i have both plumbed into the roof pump to make the flushing a no brainer and gives my employees zero excuse not to do it... plus i check EVERY damn day lol.... rule number 2 of management.. you need to inspect what you expect..



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I still use Delevan Fatboys, I have two of them that I have cleaned over 500 roofs with.  I don't have a problem with them. Keep them dry and they will last

forever.  I also very seldom rinse them after use.  Iheard they were going to stop making them though.



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Bruce Weber wrote:

Hey, Joe..when you get a replacement manifold you will notice a piss poor design. The manifold pipe is open, meaning when you send SH out your hose it fills the manifold pipe. The pipe is the width of the hose reel, but we only really need from the supply end out the 90 (hose), which is about 4-5". I know the other end of the pipe is capped, But I feel we are filling most of this section with SH. When I flush my system every night, am I really flushing ALL of the SH out?- I doubt it. Chris has talked about the SS welds which fail, but I'm still using them!

 

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 Back when I was still able to clean roofs, I got better life from my stuff because I rinsed it with a passion. However, employees will TELL you they rinsed, but seldom do! However, even rinsed out ASAP, ALL Hose Reels soon failed, so why have them ?

This is NOT pressure washing guys, we pull our hose out maybe 3 to 4 times a day, less in the off season.

We have been a hose reel less company nearly 3 years, and never looked back! 

Besides, why restrict flow ?  I can coil my hose around the large plastic boxes we have on our flatbeds, as fast or faster, then you can wind a reel!

No more leaky swivels, or broken manifold welds, to ruin your chit!

Our hose goes directly to the pump, and it sprays better too!



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My guys get paid hourly. After a few months of training they get promoted to making additional commission. But there's a few catches; One of them is a $15 service fee for not rinsing out the pump or the hose. Problem solved. The trick is you have to really back charge them the very first time, then they'll know its for real.


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Does anybody still use the Delevan Fatboy pumps?  We have been using them for five years and have not had any trouble at all.  If you get them

wet you may burn out your relay but thats no biggy.  We have had no reason to even try other pumps.  We can shoot 25-30 feet if needed and they always

prime for us.  Told myself that I would eventually upgrade to an air pump, but I see no reason too.  I was getting fatboys on ebay for around $100.00.  I have

three or four of them but we have been using the same one for two years now.  What's the advantage of using something else if a 12 volt pump works fine?    



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My guys get paid hourly. After a few months of training they get promoted to making additional commission. But there's a few catches; One of them is a $15 service fee for not rinsing out the pump or the hose. Problem solved. The trick is you have to really back charge them the very first time, then they'll know its for real.


 LOL, before we gave up on hose reels, I was known to TASTE the Hose, to see if it had been rinsed roof cleaning



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