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Adam,

I've been meeting with Realtors for over a year in an attempt to generate awareness. The realtors in this part of PA haven't bought in to roof cleaning or promoting it as part of the staging of a home, which is unfortunate. I even approached the Realtors Association and offered them to do their building(roof and siding) for free as long as I could use this opportunity to have a Q & A with their membership. The sole purpose was of this was to generate awareness. It fell on deaf ears.  I haven't given up on this approach and I'll be approaching them again in September.

In my opinion it's better to approach the seller and the potentials buyers to let them know there is an alternative to replacing the roof.

Hank



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while this is the input I was looking for I do beleive diferent areas will have difierent results. Without insult, P.A. is a reasonability cheap-arse area, so targeting homeowners may be better but income levels where you are and I are vastly different, Im hoping more affluent area pros may have a different take. But I like your approach, hoping it works out better for me.

Its a toss up of who wants the sale faster, H.O. or commisioned based agent.

The "potential" buyer is not in our sales scope as we do not know who they are.



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I was a Realtor & co-owner of a Re/Max Real Estate office for years. I know many of the agents in my local market and derive a substantial portion of our income from agent referred business (20K+ per year). First off, remember this, most agents will do the absolute minimum possible to get by in a transaction. 10% of all agents account for 90% of the transactions, so its pretty useless to market all the agents. Its important to find out who the good/productive agents are court those folks. These good agents will go the extra mile and recommend their customers to whats needed to put the house in tip-top shape for market positioning. Find out who these agents are and market them!

We do 5 or 6 Realtor meetings per year, where we go to the agent's office and provide breakfast or lunch and give a 5-10 minute multi-media presentation. Pictures really are worth 1,000 words in this business, so we come armed with power point presentations. Sometimes, we'll offer a drawing of a free house wash at the end of the meeting (up to a $300 value) , but not always .

Most agents (and homeowners for that matter ) either 1) don't see the problem with their roof or 2) don't realize the roof can be cleaned. As roof cleaners, we tend to notice every roof we drive by. Honestly the general public doesn't notice the stains for the most part, until you point it out to them. Sometimes, we'll take pictures of a house for sale with a dirty roof and include a before & after pictures of a simlar looking house we've cleaned, and deliver that package to the Realtor. This approach has given fairly good results, but it is work/time extensive.

Repetitive consistency is important with the agent too! You'll need to see them over and over again to breed familiarity with them. Don't drop off cards one time to an office and expect your phone to start ringing. However, it you put this time investment in place, it will pay off in the end. I've got 8-10 agents who send me almost every house they list for sale for a clean-up.

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Who sould be approached when a house is for sale and needs the roof cleaned?

When a potential buyer sees a house, they make a list of all that needs fixing or replacing even if they are not planning on doing so as to list a cost of repairs to negotiate a lower sales price of house.  If they see a dirty roof and figure it will cost them $10-20K to replace, deck is dangerously neglected and needs $?K, new cesspools $$$ etc.

The question is who is it better to approach to negotiate our service? Homeowner or realator?  H.O.'s usually dont want to put money into it or will do a "cheap" repaint etc, sometimes if home is empty realator will do this.  Which one of the two do you think we can get best prices from or whos responsibility is it in your opinion to have such "sprucing up" issues dealt with?



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Realtors only understand whats in it for them. When I approach them, I ask if they think the dirty roof will affect the sales price and the time to sell the property.  All usually agree and give you a figure they think the roof will degrade the asking price.  I then quote them my price so they can see the difference, and ask them how much commission they are losing by not persudading the HO to have the roof cleaned. Most never look at it that way and see how they are fukking themselves.  (6% of $10.---$12K) is a lot of money over a years time.  I also pay them a $25.00 finders fee.



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Adam,

No need to apologize. I know what you mean. I'm originally from NYC(Forest Hills).

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These same questions have been entering my mind.  Understanding that I have had a real estate license for over 30 years and just let it lapse, I now think that maybe the Home Inspector is who we should be courting.  Give them the knowledge and let them tell the buyer that those ugly stains can be removed and I know of the company to do it.  This information can be passed on to the seller when they are negotiating any and all repairs that are brought up during the home inspection.

I plan to develop a piece to send out to home inspectors regarding our services. Unfortunately there are over 1800 licensed home inspectors in IL



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Also, Gary is correct, you need to hit them in the pocket-book for them to understand why this is a valuable service! A clean house with a good looking roof will get more calls than a dirty house with algae streaks, dirty driveway and a stained roof. Here's where the pictures come into play! If the agent think a service will more than likely helptheir listing to sell, or give it a leg up on the competition, they will recommend your services to the homeowner.

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Something to remember which I believe was discussed in a previous thread. Many insurance companies ARE NOT renewing policies for homeowners who are already in their homes and not even selling them. What do you think is going to happen when the new owners have the roof inspection done and the insurance company refuses to insure the new homeowner because of the roof?

Just something to consider if your planning on pitching the roof cleaning to the seller or the realtor.

Not to mention the obvious.... Curb appeal plays a HUGE roll in the sales world.

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Realtors suck. I stopped giving them value couple years ago. Our service does so much, and is so not thought about. In time things will change. And we will be there ready to serve 'em!

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Here in SW FL, I have a few realtors that call me regularly to spruce up the home they are trying to sell. They basically tell the HO that this needs to be done and they call me to do it. They usually don't even want me to give a discount. One has even pursuaded his neighbors to clean their roofs with me. I think that realtors can be a great way to get more work. I also have a couple of home inspectors that I get referrals from. If there is a way to get a list of recent home buyers, I think that would be beneficial because they usually have some $ to spend on their house and they want their new home to be perfect.

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New buyers are our best prospects, they are buying at the low prices and they have extra money to spend on discretionary updates, on the other side was a seller who just got their equity evaporated.

I don't know how to get a list of recent new HO's that is timely and updated, like in the last 30 days.

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MJ wrote:

New buyers are our best prospects, they are buying at the low prices and they have extra money to spend on discretionary updates, on the other side was a seller who just got their equity evaporated.

I don't know how to get a list of recent new HO's that is timely and updated, like in the last 30 days.


 Try Zillow.com, they list for sale, recently sold etc but how timely the info is questionable



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