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For all of you guys that use the rock flyers on a regular basis...... What size flyers and baggies are you using and why do you use that size?

Eric, what kind of luck have you had with them?

Roof Cleaning Cleveland (216) 323-0552 wrote:

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Eric, what kind of luck have you had with them?

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 We quit doing that, if anybody wants to buy my supply of rocks call me! I have 18 tons of 3/4 cut blue

jcstomper wrote:

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why not just have your flyers made to USPS specs and take advantage of their new direct mailer program.. you can dial down to specific mail routes so you can avoid apartment complexes and neighborhoods you dont think will have extra money to spend on your service... it ends up being about 12-14 cents per peice mailed.. it looks a lot more professional..and saves you the time from having to drive around, and make up the baggies.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO DRIVE AND FLYER SEE BELOW..

if your driving around flyering.. make sure you make your flyer up so you can WRITE IN A PRICE when leaving it at a house... i bet youll get a lot more calls backs if the price for that customers house is already on the flyer you leave.... a friend does this for seal coating and has almost a 90% sale response..

-- Edited by jcstomper on Friday 27th of January 2012 08:00:43 PM

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 yea but you gotta mark the flyers some how, or create your own records, because what's to say he doesn't give it to a friend with a huge roof?

Roof Cleaning Lanoka Harbor NJ 609-971-6553 wrote:

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jcstomper wrote:

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why not just have your flyers made to USPS specs and take advantage of their new direct mailer program.. you can dial down to specific mail routes so you can avoid apartment complexes and neighborhoods you dont think will have extra money to spend on your service... it ends up being about 12-14 cents per peice mailed.. it looks a lot more professional..and saves you the time from having to drive around, and make up the baggies.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO DRIVE AND FLYER SEE BELOW..

if your driving around flyering.. make sure you make your flyer up so you can WRITE IN A PRICE when leaving it at a house... i bet youll get a lot more calls backs if the price for that customers house is already on the flyer you leave.... a friend does this for seal coating and has almost a 90% sale response..

-- Edited by jcstomper on Friday 27th of January 2012 08:00:43 PM

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 yea but you gotta mark the flyers some how, or create your own records, because what's to say he doesn't give it to a friend with a huge roof?

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 not true.. you have to make the flyers YES, you do NOT need addresses with the new USPS program..

you used to have to have a address for everything, with the new program they created, you do not need any adderss, and you can do up to 5k at a time.

 

EDIT: I thought you were talking about records for addresses to mail too.. as for your pricing.. if you are in a neighborhood, and you always clean a full roof, chances are, most roofs in that neighborhood are going to be the same price give or take.. if you think a guy is going to take a flyer, drive 10 miles away to his friend to give him your flyer.. i think your just over thinking it too much. i dont think people would be inclined to do that just to save a few bucks for their friend and not their own pocket.

-- Edited by jcstomper on Saturday 28th of January 2012 10:25:08 AM

check this out guys....

https://www.usps.com/business/every-door-direct-mail.htm

 

I had 10,000 DOUBLE SIDED flyers printed for about $450 bucks.. it cost me about $300 for a graphic designer to design.. 

but since they are not designed, i can just keep getting them printed. so my cost will be $450 plus shipping which is about .13 cents per.. i think spending money here is cheaper then my time is worth making flyers to drive around and throw. its just a thought.

I did double sided, one side is roof cleaning, the other side is pressure washing/deck restoration.

jcstomper wrote:

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Roof Cleaning Lanoka Harbor NJ 609-971-6553 wrote:

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jcstomper wrote:

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why not just have your flyers made to USPS specs and take advantage of their new direct mailer program.. you can dial down to specific mail routes so you can avoid apartment complexes and neighborhoods you dont think will have extra money to spend on your service... it ends up being about 12-14 cents per peice mailed.. it looks a lot more professional..and saves you the time from having to drive around, and make up the baggies.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO DRIVE AND FLYER SEE BELOW..

if your driving around flyering.. make sure you make your flyer up so you can WRITE IN A PRICE when leaving it at a house... i bet youll get a lot more calls backs if the price for that customers house is already on the flyer you leave.... a friend does this for seal coating and has almost a 90% sale response..

-- Edited by jcstomper on Friday 27th of January 2012 08:00:43 PM

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 yea but you gotta mark the flyers some how, or create your own records, because what's to say he doesn't give it to a friend with a huge roof?

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 not true.. you have to make the flyers YES, you do NOT need addresses with the new USPS program..

you used to have to have a address for everything, with the new program they created, you do not need any adderss, and you can do up to 5k at a time.

 

EDIT: I thought you were talking about records for addresses to mail too.. as for your pricing.. if you are in a neighborhood, and you always clean a full roof, chances are, most roofs in that neighborhood are going to be the same price give or take.. if you think a guy is going to take a flyer, drive 10 miles away to his friend to give him your flyer.. i think your just over thinking it too much. i dont think people would be inclined to do that just to save a few bucks for their friend and not their own pocket.

-- Edited by jcstomper on Saturday 28th of January 2012 10:25:08 AM

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 LOL are you serious? my stuff ended up 3 towns over before, not a good Idea, unless you want to constantly explain your self all the time, Ummm, I don't think I was over in this town handing out flyers before

 

jcstomper wrote:

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 LOL are you serious? my stuff ended up 3 towns over before, not a good Idea, unless you want to constantly explain your self all the time, Ummm, I don't think I was over in this town handing out flyers before

 

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 well your the first I've ever heard of that happening. like i said, i have friend that have used that technique and they get HUGE call backs, plus it saves them the time of having to go out and do another estimate. 

no ones saying you have to do it lol. just a idea i'm throwing out there..

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 It's a great Idea, I also write the price and address on the back of his flyer and he has to show it to me!

I'm with Ed on this, any price is too high to 50% of HO, sell them on the value, up sell them on other services, create an educational presentation, then they will like and trust you, that is how I think that is how we high pricing achieved. In essence, they think they are paying us to clean their shingles, what they are really paying for is for us to protect their property, and for us not to hurt ourselves while doing it. I have tried the quick price strategy, it does not give you the foundation that relationships are based on. I cleaned a 4500sq ft driveway two months ago for 400.00, 3 hours with hot water, surface cleaner,made little money, but I was on a roof right up the street, so I did it. We did create a relationship, HO asked my salesman if he knew anybody to help with sinking service walk and basement leak.

I jumped on it.

We just completed a 10K concrete, stamped ribbon porch and sidewalk, replaced wood rot band board, flashed it correctly, and installed 90 ft of PVC drain line, now we are selling them 3K in gutters. My margin was 25% on 10k, I'm going up to 33%, client would have been happy to pay it. Just my two cents, which is what the above might be worth.

Roof cleaning is more than a quick price, just my opinion and experience.