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Just found this site today and I think I have a better understanding of what I need to do, but I have a hideous roof.  House is about 8-9 years old, I bought it 4 years ago and within a year there were streaks on the north roof.  I found the Jomax stuff at Lowes and tried it out with little success and since then it has only gotten worse.  I'd say 90% of my north roof and 75% of my west roof is covered now.  To make it worse, it is a very light colored roof.

I would like to do this at low cost (myself) but just messaged a member from my area (pensacola), because I really want it done right.  I am refinancing the house soon, which I will need an appraisal done and I just think it would be best if the roof didn't look like garbage for that.

For a DIY guy like me...

What I have:  Bug sprayer, garden hose, access to pressure washer

Budget:  $100-$200

What I need:  Fill in the blanks, please.

PS:  I am working on pictures, maybe by this afternoon I can post some.



-- Edited by dirty roof on Thursday 27th of October 2011 12:01:28 PM

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Hi Jesse.  Since you're a home owner looking to do this DIY, feel free to give me a call.  I'd rather talk than type via private message.

 



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Cool! I just left you a voicemail Ted.



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I would hire someone in your area and pay the 300-400 to have it done professionally along with a warranty on the work.

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I agree with Mike, that's going to be a lot of trips up and down that ladder to fill that bug sprayer.

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Ted Saunders is the man!  Thanks again for all the info and advice!  I will definitely take some before/after photos!

My solution for all the ladder trips will require a little assistance from my wife on the ground.  I plan on purchasing or borrowing another sprayer so she can keep me topped off and doing a lot of the "leg work" while I'm up top (in theory this will work, in reality, time will tell).

One thing I didn't ask, how much product (mixed solution) is needed per square foot (or whatever units you work with)?  My house is 1800 square feet, not sure on the pitch but it is easily walkable, and I will need to clean at least half of the roof (it's a hip also).



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While I don't know what Ted (good guy) and you spoke of but some things to consider...

A pump up sprayer from what I've found doesn't apply a heavy enough solution to work on badly infested roofs (dwell time necc.) which is why we use specialy designed higher flow rate pumps. If it is lightly infested it'll work but may need several apps still.

Like others said, multiple trips up and down and the risk of slippage due to the solution which is very slippery.

store bought SH while is labled 5-6% available Chlorine is really only 2-3% due to time manufactured and delivered and transportation in delivery trucks are prone to heat that affects the product. The store bought stuff I get is from canada and I can only imagine how many warehouses etc its past thru.

Just figure the cost it will be to you for spending a day attempting this yourself and the cost for all the store bought stuff with big markups and the potential that the outcome results won't be guaranteed as to you paying a Pro to do for a relatively comparable price. You stateyour budget is around $200, what if you need to do multiple coats and its now over $300? $300 is what from I understand for your area a competitive price to many. Why take a chance of getting solution in your eyes, tripping and falling off the roof etc and causing injury to yourself others and/or landscape?

If you need 45gals of solution at a strenght of 4-5% available chlorine you need to use the SH straight/uncut with water.  Thats 45gals bought at the store for a price per gallon $2-3 a gal? ($3 here).  Thats $90 if at $2.00/gal.


Theres a reason this is a professional industry. H.O.s try to paint their homes, do their own landscaping etc. then hire a pro. Many times the unknown issues and risks are why there is a market for these services. Just a bit of advice, the extra $100 difference may be worth hiring someone to do it for you.

Best of luck on your decision and stay safe.



-- Edited by Maverick Contracting on Thursday 27th of October 2011 02:57:59 PM

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You know guy's { nothing personal Ted } I don't understand how we tell new members to read but If someone says he's a home owner doing it himself we spoon feed him? I think Maverick gave him the proper response. He came on here and got it all for free and in under four hours. He is not near me, but we have to look out for each other, one HO tells another and so on and so on. Chris Tucker mentioned in a thread firmen and military cutting throats down South..a " DIY " getting all the info in four hours is RIDICULOS! Come on we gotta start using our heads here!

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He's a young, DIY homeowner.  Reminds me of me, less the young part smile

What I shared with him was between he and I, in private.  It wasn't public.  And just maybe, after our conversation, he'll become one of us.  I wouldn't be surprised....

Google 'roof cleaning' and look what comes up on page one.  A video that tells a great deal, among other things.    I won't spoon feed a new business owner on here, but I'll help a home owner out in a pinch.  Especially a young gun taking care of his home.

 

 

 

 



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Ted I hear you about the private part and all, and maybe he will become a member....but what about a premium member? I am not questioning your intelligence or experiance I have read your previous post and you have plenty of both. I just have a problem with a guy popping on here and getting it handed over to him " because he's a Home owner { so he says } or a DIY. I can't tell you what to do and won't try, but this young go getter you helped out today might end up hurting a premium member on here tomorrow. I get atleast three calls a month from people all over asking me how to do it. They found me on here but are to lazy to read. I don't answer them because I know it's a potential threat to a member on here. So Ted thats what bothers me, you think "He's a young, DIY homeowner. Reminds me of me, less the young part " but he might just be saying that as a different approach to getting info for free. I guess we can go back and forth on this all day, maybe it's me.

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Professional service is virtually non existant in my area.  I have called many roofing companies and they get all "deer in headlights" on me when I ask about this.  I honestly have no clue what the going rate is on roof cleaning because I didn't know there was a market until now.  If it takes more than $200 to clean my roof, that is totally worth it to me, but if I can get the results for less, that is my goal. 

I have googled my ass off and for some reason only found this incredible source of information (roof cleaning institute of america) today.  In my research, I have read so many do's and don't, including don't use bleach (at all), that I had almost given up.  Until I got "spoon fed" today, I would have just been stuck with the same crappy roof, at least now I have a chance. 

What is a forum for anyways?  Why do I have to learn from trial and error, just because I am new or I plan on doing it myself?  I think the fact that this community here (minus one hater, who must have pioneered roof cleaning), is willing to help a stranger with a problem in under 4 hours, will only help promote their business.  Would I give my money to someone with answers; is helpful, prompt, and unselfish, or someone who would prefer to have a secret roof cleaning society? 

Sorry in andvance, I'm really not this dramatic, just struck a nerve.  I will try to keep the info top secret though.

 



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I'm a homeowner! LOL

I don't plan on buying a whole set up for cleaning my personal house, a lot of the information I found on here revolves around tanks, pumps, hoses, valves, nossles, drums, etc.  I was looking for a quick response (which I got) for a solution that fit my budget and existing resources.  If this goes as good as I hope, and I pick up an interest in doing this on the side perhaps, I will do my time in reading on my own... but that is a long shot (I'm afraid of heights).

Sorry to stir things up on here.

 



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Jesse Pats a good guy, the aprehension for giving too much info out has deep roots but you seem like a good guy.

What you need to understand is roofers get up to ten times the price to replace a roof then treat it. thats why they act ignorant or slander our service.  They rather tell you you need to replace a perfectly working roof than treat it.

Florida has many hacks that low ball, then take the money and run leaving future damage that a H.O. won;t be aware of till months later they get serious leaks.  To fix the damage it cost much much more than if done right the first time.

As a professional contractor many times I get hired for a single service but I spot many potential and current problems that the HO isn't aware of and can point it out and save the new HO's from future probs. and many thousands of dollars.

You may just want to contact someone near you that can point out unforseen issues for a free accessment. check this link for someone near you....

http://rcia.uglyshingles.com/roofcleaners.htm

And if there isn't anyone near you on the panhandle, it may be a good business oppy., not sure how many are in the Alabama/Louisiana southern borders.



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Jessie, since today is " your first day " here you really have no clue as to what at times take place on this board. This information is free to all by it's creator Chris Tucker, not me. Usually a person becomes a member reads alot and ask some questions and gradually helps support this board and it's expenses by becoming a premium member. Once a person becomes a premium member he shows a sincere intrest in roof cleaning and keeping this site afloat. I am not looking for a " secret roof cleaning society " I am looking to stop those who come on here ask a thousand questions of these guys who have learned " by trial an error " then split to go about and do what they do. So you see you appear to be another one, You stated " why do I have to learn by trial and error " indeed why should you? Maybe we should just come and clean it for you for under two hundred,or better yet for free? Ted is a good guy, he's one of the guys I was talking about. What nerve of yours was struck Jessie? That you had the "Nerve" to just assume you should " be spoon fed " and it shouldn't bother anyone who worked for it? What do you do for a living Jessie I would be interested to know. You labeled me a " hater " why, because I disagreed about " spoon feeding " you? It's a tough world out there, I guess who ever doesn't just give Jessie what he wants he must then be a hater? So Jessie since you labeled me let's see what label fits you? I got it, " your a taker "and always have been and will be.

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Maverick, thanks for the link, there was actually a company that serves the area a little west of me but I will call ASAP for an opinion/quote/etc.

Pat, you got me... really that was good.  The nerve thing was about dogging Ted.  Truce?  How about we get new titles, I am a "sponge" and you are an "invested busnessman looking out for the best interest of the group".   I really don't have anything to offer right now, but I will try to keep up with the forum and do my part where i can.  I plan on either biting the bullet this weekend or depending on the quote I get from the pro, may just let them handle it.  Either way, I now have a knowledge that I wouldn't have found anywhere else and at the very least can protect myself from any hacks that might try to take advantage me, in the future.

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You know what Jessie, maybe I was mistaken. After reading your last post I see I actually mis read you and I do apologize, no truce needed. I see Ted shows his wisdom once again! Again I don't know what you do for a living, but if no one close to you offers this service maybe you should look into it. Good looking kid you got there, goes real fast { like they say } Only advice I can offer raising kids { from my trial and error } hear them out no matter what you think, and never react or make any decission while you are angry...wait it out and regroup. Good Luck to you.......

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Quite a rollercoaster ride at RCIA today!  I'm almost ready for a hug!  Thanks for the advice Pat, remember I am a sponge! 

I talked to Russ at Prokleen Power Wash a few minutes ago and he talked me out of the bug sprayer.  He also made me a fair deal that meets my schedule and has a 5 year warranty.  I was actually really looking forward to learning a new trade and seeing where it went, but it's hard to beat letting someone else do it for you, so I am leaning towards going with a pro right now. 



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Quite a rollercoaster ride at RCIA today!  I'm almost ready for a hug!  Thanks for the advice Pat, remember I am a sponge! 

I talked to Russ at Prokleen Power Wash a few minutes ago and he talked me out of the bug sprayer.  He also made me a fair deal that meets my schedule and has a 5 year warranty.  I was actually really looking forward to learning a new trade and seeing where it went, but it's hard to beat letting someone else do it for you, so I am leaning towards going with a pro right now. 


 goodpostWise decision "sponge".  lol   All it takes is one misstep and you are in for a load of medical bills.  Pat got upset at first because we have many newbies that come here, do not want to contribute, do not want to search for the info, but yet want to be spoon fed the info at our expense.  Good Luck!evileye

 



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My colleagues, or guild members, are considerate people and are trying to help you, but in different ways.  I know the person who instructed you as one of the most generous and professional people you'll meet, so I know that you were trained as well as that conversation could train you, and you no doubt had an invitation to call with any questions.

However:

1)  Seeing that baby in your arms, I disagree wholeheartedly about what I consider the equivalent of handing you a loaded gun without proper training.  There is a reason information isn't forthcoming here to anyone who wishes to tackle the job to save a few dollars.  It isn't just that people who wish to earn a living at this trade wish to protect a formula that's well known.

There is a reason that the people trained here often carry millions in liability insurance.

How will that baby's father have that ladder secured against that roof or gutter?  Will he tie it off?  How many rungs will be above the roof edge, should he decide to leave the ladder and walk the roof?

Does he have the ladder at the proper angle for climbing?  Does he know what that angle is?  It only takes a second of poor judgment or lack of training.  Consider a Ladder Max or proper stand-off or stabilizer.  Some of the pros here will no longer climb without one.  Why?

Please watch:

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Where are the pets and where is that child while dad is up there spraying or venturing out on that roof, on slippery algae-coated surfaces that he's spraying a slippery chemical mixture on?

 

2)  Watch your lungs and your eyes.  Wear protective gear and a respirator.  I personally had a suction tube flip out of a bottle of chemical while not wearing goggles.  It will drop you to your knees and has potential to blind you, so have your drinking water canteen on your hip to flush your eyes.

3)  Know what was in that sprayer before you use it with the chemicals you are using.  If you mix SH with the wrong chemicals you could have toxic gas or an explosion.  STAY WITH THE MIX YOU WERE GIVEN.  DON'T GET CREATIVE.

4)  If you have rust stains in addition to algae and you wish to spray them with an acid based chemical, STOP.  DON'T.  Talk to people here before even thinking about it.

5)  Watch YOUR OVERSPRAY, or you'll be buying your neighbors new plants, siding, paint job on their vehicles.

6)  Be sure that the gutters aren't clogged and aren't pulled away from the fascia, allowing chemical to run behind the gutters and onto awnings, siding, decks, or other surfaces below.

7)  Bag those downspouts and get those cleaning agents away from where the pets drink etc.

Some of the pros here tell people to close their windows and stay inside while the tech is out spraying.  There is a reason for this.

Can you do the job?  Sure you can, and if my colleague instructed you, he did it with a kind heart and he did it well.

Don't take the situation lightly.

Best wishes to you,

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Good choice on hiring a pro. Trust me, you are saving yourself money (and time) because you probably would have realized you were in over your head once you started.

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