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I have a vinyl siding home to do on Wednesday and would like to use my roof cleaning rig.  What SH ratio do you use for siding?  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks, Tracy.



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Cut your roof mix in half and it should work great.

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You can cut it even more than that with great results. There are probably lots of posts like this if you do a quick search.

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The best way to do this is to DS it on the siding. Alot of people use 12% but I regularly use the 10% bought from the pool supply. Put in a splash of simple cherry (pressure Tek) and it works great. If you use the your roof pump I woud think that you could buy some SH at wally world and still cut it and it would work good.

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We typically use about a 8 - 10% mix of SH to water, plus plenty of detergent & surfactant for vinyl. Some cases take a little stronger mix...as demonstrated in these pictures!

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Any more sh than 8-10% can potentially harm some landscape, especially annuals and other delicates. The warmer the temps the better the sh will work. When washing houses it's not a terrible habit to spend 5 minutes or less watering landscape before you start.

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For a 80 gl mix i will use 5 gl sh.

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Tracy wrote:

I have a vinyl siding home to do on Wednesday and would like to use my roof cleaning rig.  What SH ratio do you use for siding?  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks, Tracy.


 Thanks to everyone for the help



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We typically use about a 8 - 10% mix of SH to water, plus plenty of detergent & surfactant for vinyl. Some cases take a little stronger mix...as demonstrated in these pictures!


 those are some amazing before and after pics great jbo. I have been cleaning mobile homes almost exclusively for two years and that has to be one of the best I have seen!



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We typically use about a 8 - 10% mix of SH to water, plus plenty of detergent & surfactant for vinyl. Some cases take a little stronger mix...as demonstrated in these pictures!


 Holy chit!!!!!



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If using TSP in that mix, omit it for the housewash, yes?



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Yes TSP can etch windows if not properly rinsed before and after.....Ray which one of those is the Before and the After!!!! LOL Great job man!!

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I have a recipe for 50 gallons that costs me $6.03 to make.  I won't post it and educate my compettition, but if you are a premium member, & you want it, call me.  BTW, I'm paying $2.21/gallon of SH, you may be able to mix it up cheaper.  Beautiful pics Ray.  The closest I've come to that is my new used truck, but I know I'll find it sooner or later. 



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I dunno guys. Roof cleaning mix on siding and windows and gutters? You need more than SH. my 2 cents. Sure you could sell it.

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I often see in these discussions the mentioning of percentages in house wash mix,.. I think the mix up with the huge differences in percentage numbers is the way it's applied or how someone considers percentage. Some people consider percentage as the of VOLUME of 12.5% in any given container,..where as others consider the actual percentage of hypo in the mix. There are various methods of applying,..premixed, DS,..or x-jet,...
So simply mentioning the percentage of mix HITTING THE SIDING would probably tie these numbers closer together amoung those discussing it.

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I do add more than just SH. I was simply making the point that my SH is expensive, so your cost to mix up my recipe might be lower than mine. Also, my company does not own a pressure washer, we limit our cleaning to soft washing, so we just use our flojet to apply it. It's so easy even a monkey can do it. If you don't believe me, I'll have one of my guys take a picture of me doing it.

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Excellent point, Jeff.

What I take from Jeff's post is not so much about other ingredients, but the possibility of misinterpretation among us regarding the actual percentage of SH itself in the mixes we prescribe.  The final measure would be, as Jeff says, "HITTING THE SIDING" or as applied or "SH>" which could represent at the spray tip. 

It could be a moot point, though, because almost everyone here - including ARMA guideline- reference volume measure of product as it is purchased from the supplier, i.e., a gallon of this and a gallon of that.  Few here who know with cetainty the actual percentage of SH at the spray tip and would be unable to readily measure it.

Am I right on this?

Perhaps we could benefit from a standard legend to do away with the confusion.

SHG could mean per gallon measure, regardless of the strength of SH within that gallon, which is the way we purchase the chemical.

With that "10% SHG" could mean ten percent of your SH mixed with your chemicals.

Jeff has it.  When most of us say 10% SH, we really reference SHGs.   

 



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When I talk percentage, I am talking percentage hitting the surface to be cleaned. I assumed everyone else was, too, but maybe I'm mistaken?

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I guess what I'm after here is when you say 10% SH, there is some discussion now and then about whether you mean actual sodium hypochlorite OR the diluted SH that you get when you buy a gallon of it, which would be, in actuality 12.5% SH per gallon.

I know this is convoluted, but that's where the discussion leads, and I think that's what Jeff was talking about.

If you buy 1 gallon of SH and its strength is 10%, you have 90% (water?) in that gallon.

"SHG" if I could use that abbreviation for clarity, would simply mean one gallon of SH at whatever strength you bought it, be it 12.5%, 15%, etc.

When there's a discussion of using 10% SH in a house wash mix, I believe most people would be talking SHGs, not actual sodium hypochlorite.



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BTW, Phil, you have a great new picture there!  That's one lucky and happy little guy there on your shoulders.



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