just did a flat tile roof that was white and i just walked down the roof spraying from the top down. then after the whole roof was sprayed i went back with a pressure washer and a 0040 tip on and sprayed the edge that you can see from the ground and it rinses off the dirt and dead alage that stayed on the edge. it very little pressure but it works. just my 2 cents.
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So your walkin backward down the slop towards the edge??
Look at the picture I posted (above) you can see we go from the top down walking forwards stopping 2 foot from the edge...
Sorry Dave I still like your idea about using tent straps to hold the bags on
You guys up north clean mostly shingle roofs. Down in south Florida the majority of roofs (that people will actually pay to clean) ate tile roofs. You can't walk from top down cleaning because you won't get all the faces of the tiles. Unless I'm missing something?? I don't like walking tile roofs to clean but end doing so anyway because it just seems quicker. I normally start at the top and walk forward side to side and then move down and do it again. Spraying from a ladder doesn't seem to work real good when cleaning barrel tile. You are always getting down to move the ladder a couple feet. Unless you just flood the roof but most don't have gutters and I don't want to risk killing all the landscaping. If there is a better way, I would love to know. Jon
When I was cleaning tile roofs, I always sprayed UP, against the face of the tiles.
This gets the edges better, and wastes less chemical doing it. Standing on top of a tile roof and spraying down, counting on run off to get edges is chicken chit. Many of my employees have been scared to be up on a tile roof. This fear must be overcome, or they must go. Some have admitted they do not like to go near the bottom of a tile roof, turn sideways, then walk up, spraying as they go, because of fear of falling.
The fact is tile roofs are slippery, so care must be taken when cleaning them. Home Depot used to sell a garden wand with a shower pattern that was great for tile roof cleaning. I have not seen THAT one in years, but I really liked it. One must also be careful about surfactants, they can actually LUBRICATE a Tile Roof so u bust your azz ! Dawn is super slick to use on a glazed tile roof, for instance.
We prefer Ammonyx LO because it only takes a little of it, and my employees say it makes the tile roofs we clean less slick vs dish soaps like ajax and dawn.
Glad this started a small dialog on different ways to catch the run-off. I too, have used buckets and small trays. But some of the gutters are just to low to the ground. Hey, Ugly, I see from the pic you aren't using fall protection walking that roof. Be very very careful. MIOSHA people drive around in normal looking cars just looking for ways to make money...
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Glad this started a small dialog on different ways to catch the run-off. I too, have used buckets and small trays. But some of the gutters are just to low to the ground. Hey, Ugly, I see from the pic you aren't using fall protection walking that roof. Be very very careful. MIOSHA people drive around in normal looking cars just looking for ways to make money...
Thanks for the heads up Dave but we always wear our fall protection. You just need to look at the shadow to see it.
-- Edited by Ugly Shingles on Saturday 16th of April 2011 08:33:54 AM
Really....I must be using way to much sauce then. I seem to get allot of run off. Last shingle roof I did 3500 sqft. I probably took away 10 gls in run off. It always seems to take 2 coats to get these roofs where I feel comfortable leaving and I'm runnin a strong mix 50/50. Tile is the worst but shingles I like to get them wet enough to where it just starts to slide a little.
What am I doing wrong?
AAron, 50/50 is too strong for shingles. 30-35% is all you need. You always have to hit roofs twice in some places.
To get a bucket under a downspout, you have to take it apart.
Chuck
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Roof Cleaning Grand Rapids Michigan 616-914-9064 wrote:
Glad this started a small dialog on different ways to catch the run-off. I too, have used buckets and small trays. But some of the gutters are just to low to the ground. Hey, Ugly, I see from the pic you aren't using fall protection walking that roof. Be very very careful. MIOSHA people drive around in normal looking cars just looking for ways to make money...
Thanks for the heads up Dave but we always wear our fall protection. You just need to look at the shadow to see it.
-- Edited by Ugly Shingles on Saturday 16th of April 2011 08:33:54 AM
Hey Ugly
That is an odd looking picture?
It almost looks like a dirty gray shingle roof in the area you are cleaning, but looks like a light tan down below???
I wonder what gives it that appearance?
Inquiring minds what to be nosey!
Chuck
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Mr. Uglly Shingles, may I ask what you are using to make your misture white? I am using, on a 100 gallon tank 34 gal of Chlorine, 66 gal of H2O, and 50 oz of Simple Cherry. It cleans good but it runs off to fast on a 12/12 pitch and I end up with too much waste. Thanks for your advice. Don
This is directed at the guys getting one to three gallons run off.
I get way more than that. Recently, I tried a different method of spraying and got only one to two gallons run off.
I thought Great I figured it out. Then the homeowner called and said his roof was still dirty. I immediately went back. The algae was killed but could still be seen on roof where it had started to run off.
He suggested we wait until after a rain and see what happened.( this guy has a large property management group and was trying me out on his own house) It was a week before it rained and the stuff had time to bake. It didn't come off. So, I went back and hit it again with the stuff and then rinsed. Voila!! It came clean.
Now he wants me to clean a bunch of small roofs for 200-300 bucks a piece.
At that price I will HAVE to conserve mix. I told him I could do that provided we lined up 4-5 houses for each day.
I want low run off but, want them clean when I leave. Cannot asfford to make repeat trips for that price.
Don, I just went on the ammonyx lo hunt last week here's what I found.
Don from Brainerd is a good source. Barry from Landis lives b/t the two of us and recommended BC-MAO, so you might want to try both.
I spoke to my Univar rep and he said he'd sell me a drum, despite the fact that there's a $2500 minimum initial purchase. You probably have a different rep than me and from what I understand it's really up to that individual rep. Just call Univar and customer service will put you in touch with the right person.
Another option is to find out from that rep if any company purchases from them in your area and you could probably have them order it for you.
My 1st call was to Lori from PWP but it's been 6 days and still no word despite multiple calls and emails. Patience isn't a virtue of mine so that experiment is over, but maybe you'll have better luck.
You can look at the post, it's on page 2 on the premium side titled ammonyx lo ... hope it helps Don.