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Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

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Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX wrote:

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I never asked for cert to begin with. Chris gave it to me when I joined. I hereby renouce the letters under my name on the left side of this forum. Wheew I feel better.

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 I gave you a more "appropriate title"  

 

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Chris, why on earth don't you just ban this Confident guy?

He is clearly in with AC and his small group, to downgrade RCIA, if they can't just take it over.

Throw his A$$ out!

He himself said about you in this thread "If you had the balls you would do it"

{ Not exact wording, but very close! }

Man, if I owned RCIA this "Confident" guy would be a gonner!

He's for AC and against you!

I'm not gonna argue with you Confident, I'm just saying what I honestly feel.

I don't care to have personal conversation about this.

I don't claim to know the full AC /Bill Booze/ Confident etc etc agenda, but there clearly is one! It's not an agenda to benefit RCIA or Chris Tucker, that's for sure!

Chuck

 

2 things.

Chris, I didnt say what you teach is worthless, just the cert ification you're offering. And when your name is brought up in conversation I show my gratitude for what you did for us in the beginning.

Chuck, I have no agenda. As for AC, Bill, etc..... I can not say. I have no urge to "take over RCIA". If you comment then obviously you have an urge to have a conversation about it. Stop trying to manipulate people into thinking you're some nice old man with no agenda yourself.

The agenda set forth by You, Brett, Art, Tom, etc, was to oust AC. You did. Good job. It was well known and documented.

Whats MY agenda? You can't throw out accusations without anything to back it up with....So come on Chuck, whats my Agenda????

I dont have one, thats what it is. but I wont allow people to sit here and lie and say nothing about it.

And once again, lets not forget who started this. David Hoover, who is obviously sitting at home jerking his meat watching all of this.

-- Edited by Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX on Wednesday 30th of March 2011 07:38:01 PM

Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX wrote:

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2 things.

Chris, I didnt say what you teach is worthless, just the cert ification you're offering. And when your name is brought up in conversation I show my gratitude for what you did for us in the beginning.

Chuck, I have no agenda. As for AC, Bill, etc..... I can not say. I have no urge to "take over RCIA". If you comment then obviously you have an urge to have a conversation about it. Stop trying to manipulate people into thinking you're some nice old man with no agenda yourself.

The agenda set forth by You, Brett, Art, Tom, etc, was to oust AC. You did. Good job. It was well known and documented.

Whats MY agenda? You can't throw out accusations without anything to back it up with....So come on Chuck, whats my Agenda????

I dont have one, thats what it is. but I wont allow people to sit here and lie and say nothing about it.

And once again, lets not forget who started this. David Hoover, who is obviously sitting at home jerking his meat watching all of this.

-- Edited by Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX on Wednesday 30th of March 2011 07:38:01 PM

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 You back up AC and insult Chris Tucker and RCIA over and over and over again!

That's all documented here and on other sites, as you know.

Was I part of { what did AC call it? } the "Majority"? who wanted him ousted? YUP! Big time! And now I'm waiting for his little followers to go away too. You included!

My agenda has always been clearly stated by me - Get rid of AC and his minions-you included- and leave Chris Tucker to run RCIA competently, as he is well able to do! In spite of what you say!

If you think other places have better certifications for no pressure roof cleaning, then what in hell are you doing wasting your time here? GO GET ONE!

There, you wanted a personal reply: YOU GOT IT!

I eagerly await your banning!

Chuck

 

-- Edited by Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 on Wednesday 30th of March 2011 07:47:53 PM

Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX wrote:

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Yea Chris, they offer classes teaching people this stuff to get certified. You do not. Which means yours is worthless at $350.00. Its not my "opinion" it is what it is. This forum is NOT a class and theres so much bullshit info inserted into the good info.

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 I must have got a deal. My membership was $100.00 and certification will be $150.00 or $250.00 total. Where do I send the other $100.00?

Under this definition an on line course is worthless?

It was my understanding that the courses will be taught through webinar's, which are based off of standards and experience.

I personally don't need a classroom with someone up front Blowvacating, a word I made up, at great expense, when I can study right from my own home.

Though it is a matter of choice and some need to have their hand held.

 

I have no urge to be certified and wouldnt have through AC and Delux either. If you believe that Chris Tucker can do anything competently, you are delusional and senial.

You just made my point. I have no Agenda and you do, so now you go in the pot with Tom, as a liar with no integrity.

Central Iowa Roof Cleaning 515-971-1430 wrote:

Sometimes the hole in the boat is to big to repair and you just need a new boat!

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 Bruce is that why you and a few others started a new roof cleaning forum?

Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX wrote:

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I have no urge to be certified and wouldnt have through AC and Delux either. If you believe that Chris Tucker can do anything competently, you are delusional and senial.

You just made my point. I have no Agenda and you do, so now you go in the pot with Tom, as a liar with no integrity.

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 As long as I'm not in the pot with you and AC and the Kool Aid drinkers, that's fine!

I might be a bit old, but I bet ya a $2500.00 AC/Delux certification, if we were face to face, you wouldn't say that I'm a liar with no integrity!

If ya did, you'd smile a little differently from that day on!

Computer tough guys always crack me up!

Again, you picked the perfect "thumbs up" guy for your logo. That represents you 100%

A fake and phony little man.

Maybe we will meet some day?

I look forward to it! I'll take you out back and show you my Roof Cleaning Rig!

Chuck

 

Roof Cleaning Virginia 540-949-6277 wrote:

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AC Lockyer wrote:

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 Now, I am going to ask you publicly AC Did you have anything to do with helping  a competing organization write a  competing certification test ? That is the perception of some members AC.

"Nope never did and have never discussed the RCIA cert with PWNA. If you remember Chris my first ever contact with the PWNA was at the Tampa event in July. They were openly advertising their cert program then."

Some members feel that the minute you resigned from the BOD you made a deal with Delux and PWNA, while your  name is still on our corporate documents. 

"I made my deal with Delux in August of 2010. I was pushing the RCIA"

Bill Booze is on the PWNA Certification commitee, and he just said PWNA was nowhere near ready.

"Bill knows about as much as I as he has stated that the PWNA hasnt had any cert com meetings. I am not sure how they are coming up with it. I heard that Charlie brought a bunch of PWNA cert questions and gave them to our cert comm."

Hilborn, Mrza, and Eric Clark ate dinner with us not even a year ago, and had not a clue how we clean roofs. Yet you are telling me they are all the sudden "ready" to issue certifications for roof cleaning ?

"As you know Chris that was a meeting the Ron had organized with you and Bill before I was ever involved. The PWNA was already working on their roof cleaning program before then."

"Actually Chris Mike Hilborne has cleaned about as many roofs as you have. He knows how to clean roofs. Just not my style of roof cleaning."

For YOU to teach a roof cleaning class that offers PWNA Certification vs ours means you support PWNA Certification AC. 

" I have an obligation to give a class that offers a certification test at the end. The RCIA didnt perform as promised and did not deliver to Delux what we asked for. The RCIA committed to providing the 50 Point Standard and a 100 question test. Sorry you were not at any of the meetings of the BOD to have heard and understood that. When the RCIA failed to meet the March 14th commitment that was agreed upon by the cert comit by its chair and also communicated as well through Bill Booz Delux and I got the vibe it wasnt going to happen. Then the PWNA jumped on that opening like a chicken on a june bug!"

Therefore, you are a traitor to the RCIA. The president of Ford Motor Company would never consider promoting Chevrolets.

"Sorry you feel I am a traitor. If honoring my word and working selflessly for an org I wasnt even being paid by is being a traitor than so be it!"

AC

 

 

 

 

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-- Edited by AC Lockyer on Wednesday 30th of March 2011 01:43:36 AM

-- Edited by AC Lockyer on Wednesday 30th of March 2011 01:44:34 AM

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This is interesting! The committees weren't even turned into the BOD until Feb. 1st. The committees sat with nothing done until Bill & AC returned from Memphis. The first Crt. meeting was 2/13. Not once did anyone make a statement or claim that the certification was to be completed by 3/14. It was actually discussed to have it ready by 4/1 due to Delux wanting it by then and we were also told that Delux wanted 100 questions. The only information we got from Delux was through Bill Booze. The committee never once agreed to have this ready for Delux by any date and the chair, to my knowledge never communicated through anyone that the certification would be completed for Delux for any specific date. There are recordings as well as minutes to all the meetings.

The committee was doing this work for the members of RCIA, not Delux! It was only after the post was put up by Delux that the committee found that there was some kind of deal made with Delux to do this certification class well before any further discussion and vote. It was just days before that post that we found that Delux would be using our test and wanted 100 questions as well as a payment to RCIA for the use of our certification. We did discuss that the offer (or deal) of 150.00 was not enough.

Take the high road and do things on the up and up.

Too much strange stuff. I agree with so much stated here about the loyalty.

Is this loyal to RCIA: http://probizguide-compassrose.activeboard.com/

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 Your funny. So if I start a fishing BB its disloyal as well. That is a business consulting BB.............your so dumb its just flat funny now. Either dumb or dishonest. You pick.

 

AC

 

Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX wrote:

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Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 wrote:

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Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX wrote:

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2 things.

Chris, I didnt say what you teach is worthless, just the cert ification you're offering. And when your name is brought up in conversation I show my gratitude for what you did for us in the beginning.

Chuck, I have no agenda. As for AC, Bill, etc..... I can not say. I have no urge to "take over RCIA". If you comment then obviously you have an urge to have a conversation about it. Stop trying to manipulate people into thinking you're some nice old man with no agenda yourself.

The agenda set forth by You, Brett, Art, Tom, etc, was to oust AC. You did. Good job. It was well known and documented.

Whats MY agenda? You can't throw out accusations without anything to back it up with....So come on Chuck, whats my Agenda????

I dont have one, thats what it is. but I wont allow people to sit here and lie and say nothing about it.

And once again, lets not forget who started this. David Hoover, who is obviously sitting at home jerking his meat watching all of this.

-- Edited by Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX on Wednesday 30th of March 2011 07:38:01 PM

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 PS: you said " Stop trying to manipulate people into thinking you're some nice old man with no agenda yourself."

How could anybody read my posts and think I'm a "nice old man" ??

You keep telling us over and over how you don't lie?

People who have to constantly reassure everyone, that they don't lie, are usually big liars!

YOU DO NOT BELONG HERE AMONG TRUE RCIA MEMBERS!

YOU BELONG TO AC.

Chuck

 

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I said 1 time that I didnt lie, im pointing out your lies.  Use facts Chuck and show me a lie....I WILL NEVER COME HERE AGAIN IF YOU CAN DO IT. PLEASE, I EAGERLY AWAIT YOUR REPLY.

-- Edited by Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX on Wednesday 30th of March 2011 07:54:38 PM

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My apology!

You are probably an excellent liar and will likely never be caught!

Actually, I don't think I said you lied?

I said you feel the need to constantly reassure everyone you don't lie and that is often the tell-tale sign of a liar.

Chuck