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Roof Cleaning Cleveland (216) 323-0552 wrote:

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Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX wrote:

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Roof Cleaning Cleveland (216) 323-0552 wrote:

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Scott, you proved my point; he said he wants nothing to do with the org anymore. Unless apparantly he can make money of us.

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 Nope. He said "I am not working with that .org anymore.".Which he isnt, he resigned. If someone doesnt work with mcdonalds anymore it doesnt mean they dont still eat there. maybe you misunderstood, or maybe you took it out of context on purpose, either way you are wrong. You should go back and read the thread again where he wishes good things on the Org, and does so on a forum that is VERY hostile towards RCIA. Just like I did a few months ago and got killed there for it too.

Chris, you should really take a look at who has TRULY supported the RCIA all along even when its not popular. but you also have to take criticism as well when it comes along.

 

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 Scott to me it's the same thing, org,  forum or whatever. Using your Macdonalds analogy; if I say I'll never eat there I would not eat at any Macdonalds, not just one particular store.

 

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 Well then you're not just ignorant, you're stupid too because an Org and a forum are 2 different things, and they should have been kept seperate from the first day.

 

Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

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I was just outside visiting with my friend Billy Jensen of H20 Roof Cleaning, and he just gave me what is a REAL advancement in roof cleaning technology. THIS is how I would rather spend my time guys.

I see no explanation or apology coming from Delux or the PWNA, nor do I see AC putting his foot down to support RCIA. What do you guys think about all this ? Am I wrong to call Deluxe and the PWNA out ? They are on our forum rent free, soliciting RCIA members money, yet refuse to use our certification for a class taught by an RCIA Member. Opinions needed !

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 An old saying, "why buy a cow when you can get the milk for free? "

But I still would never sell it out period, it belongs right here. I say let them sell the PWNA certs (elsewhere of course), but it still will not be an RCIA Cert!!!!! Period. Let em go do their thing. and smile... Really BIG

You got what others don't have and nothing can change that.

Kim R

 

 

Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX wrote:

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Roof Cleaning Bradenton FL 941-822-2454 wrote:

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I shall only seek RCIA certification right here, it's like buying a knock off version if sought elsewhere, if you ask me.
I have read on here for over 2 years and got involved right here, so my alliance rests here.
For me it would be like telling my teacher from school thanks for the education, now I will switch to XYZ to get my graduate certificate.
The teacher puts the time in to educate me and now I give my thanks to my instructor, by obtaining a certificate by someone who has no clue who I am or what I know.
Being certified is a fraction of what this forum has to offer, there is so much more than that, it is the constant or what used to be continual support by the members. There is no place any where else that does what RCIA can do, the sheer talent of the wide scope of members both premium and guests and the sharing of info in support of each other.
A certificate anywhere else would make me feel cheapened, Chris I would never sell it out or lease it out, nothing, keeping it where it belongs right here!
Kim R

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 You make the certification worth more than the paper its written on and Ill gladly say the same thing and pay $1000 for it. Unfortunately thats not going to happen.

 

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 What would make the certification more than paper? What's your point of validity?

What makes any cert valid? A valid certificate is only as good as the person or person's that teach and set the standards as such. So if Chris Tucker is an ineligible teacher and has no credentials to set any standards, then please pray tell whom may that be?

Because someone has money and has operated in an industry does not mean that they are the only and ultimate authority. One more thing to remember Scott is when amongst millionaires just because you are with them does not mean you are or will be them.

Kim R

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/certificate

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-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Bradenton FL 941-822-2454 on Wednesday 30th of March 2011 06:00:26 PM

Roof Cleaning Bradenton FL 941-822-2454 wrote:

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Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX wrote:

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Roof Cleaning Bradenton FL 941-822-2454 wrote:

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I shall only seek RCIA certification right here, it's like buying a knock off version if sought elsewhere, if you ask me.
I have read on here for over 2 years and got involved right here, so my alliance rests here.
For me it would be like telling my teacher from school thanks for the education, now I will switch to XYZ to get my graduate certificate.
The teacher puts the time in to educate me and now I give my thanks to my instructor, by obtaining a certificate by someone who has no clue who I am or what I know.
Being certified is a fraction of what this forum has to offer, there is so much more than that, it is the constant or what used to be continual support by the members. There is no place any where else that does what RCIA can do, the sheer talent of the wide scope of members both premium and guests and the sharing of info in support of each other.
A certificate anywhere else would make me feel cheapened, Chris I would never sell it out or lease it out, nothing, keeping it where it belongs right here!
Kim R

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 You make the certification worth more than the paper its written on and Ill gladly say the same thing and pay $1000 for it. Unfortunately thats not going to happen.

 

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 What would make the certification more than paper? What's your point of validity?

What makes any cert valid? A valid certificate is only as good as the person or person's that teach and set the standards as such. So if Chris Tucker is an ineligiblet eacher and has no credentials to set any standards, then please pray tell whom may that be?

Because someone has money and has operated in an industry does not mean that they are the only and ultimate authority. One more thing to remember Scott is when amongst millionaires just because you are with them does not mean you are or will be them.

Kim R

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/certificate

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cer·tif·i·cate  (sr-tf-kt)

n.

1. A document testifying to the truth of something: a certificate of birth.

2. A document issued to a person completing a course of study not leading to a diploma.

3. A document certifying that a person may officially practice in certain professions.

4. A document certifying ownership.

tr.v. (-kt) cer·tif·i·cat·ed, cer·tif·i·cat·ing, cer·tif·i·cates

To furnish with, testify to, or authorize by a certificate.

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[Middle English certificat, from Old French, from Medieval Latin certifictum, something certified, from neuter of Late Latin certifictus, past participle of certificre, to certify; see certify.]

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cer·tifi·ca·tory (-k-tôr, -tr) adj.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

 

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 Kim, you misunderstand obviously.

I dont have a problem with the cert the way it is. It means nothing but its fine. I have a problem with the fact that it is EXACTLY THE SAME as the last one essentially and it costs $350. 

I can certify you on anything you want by giving you a letter saying so if you want me to. Doesnt mean its worth anything or recognized by anyone. This cert is a JOKE and will not be taken serious by ANYBODY beyond this forum.

-- Edited by Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX on Wednesday 30th of March 2011 06:17:00 PM

 WOW, a little computer tough guy. Hope we never meet. RCIA IS THE RCIA I have learned a lot here and consider it family. You won't catch me on other forums talking shit and coming here like nothing happened. Forget that, you won't catch me saying anything bad about the RCIA. Why are you starting so many fights here? Art, Brett and now me. In the immortal words of Kim "blow me"  Have a good life Scott, I've had my fun with you and now I'm done. 

 

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 And Like I told Chuck lets looks at whos starting fights and lying. David started this thread and you are lying about people. At least david just gave his opinion on something, you are OUTRIGHT LYING and trying to pass it along as truth.

 That means you have no integrity. Say what you want about me, but at least I can put my head on my pillow each night knowing im not a liar.

 

integrity [ɪnˈtɛgrɪtɪ]

-- Edited by Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX on Wednesday 30th of March 2011 06:22:08 PM

Scott I do not believe I misunderstood at all.
But in order to eliminate a new pissing match, I don't do those.
I do not agree they are the same and until someone can clarify what a "valid certification course and certificate looks like" I will stick with what is given here.
Chris T is the clout I respect.
I have not seen a PWNA class or certication course/testing module, so your guess is as good as mine.
What I do know is to join PWNA is $350 and then you can educate and test. So those add up more then the whole deal here.
But besides the money tag, the value I find is at RCIA being that my choice is to clean roofs in a non pressure aka. softwash method.

What I do know is Chris T is an extremely competent educator in the field of Non Pressure Roof Cleaning and that is the course I chose to take.
The cert being a joke well those are your choice of words and hmm.. well they are yours. Renounce your certified title if they are truly useless in your eyes.

Kim R

Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX wrote:

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I never asked for cert to begin with. Chris gave it to me when I joined. I hereby renouce the letters under my name on the left side of this forum. Wheew I feel better.

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 I gave you a more "appropriate title"  

 

Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX wrote:

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 What would make the certification more than paper? What's your point of validity?

What makes any cert valid? A valid certificate is only as good as the person or person's that teach and set the standards as such. So if Chris Tucker is an ineligiblet eacher and has no credentials to set any standards, then please pray tell whom may that be?

Because someone has money and has operated in an industry does not mean that they are the only and ultimate authority. One more thing to remember Scott is when amongst millionaires just because you are with them does not mean you are or will be them.

Kim R

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/certificate

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cer·tif·i·cate  (sr-tf-kt)

n.

1. A document testifying to the truth of something: a certificate of birth.

2. A document issued to a person completing a course of study not leading to a diploma.

3. A document certifying that a person may officially practice in certain professions.

4. A document certifying ownership.

tr.v. (-kt) cer·tif·i·cat·ed, cer·tif·i·cat·ing, cer·tif·i·cates

To furnish with, testify to, or authorize by a certificate.

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[Middle English certificat, from Old French, from Medieval Latin certifictum, something certified, from neuter of Late Latin certifictus, past participle of certificre, to certify; see certify.]

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cer·tifi·ca·tory (-k-tôr, -tr) adj.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

 

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 Kim, you misunderstand obviously.

I dont have a problem with the cert the way it is. It means nothing but its fine. I have a problem with the fact that it is EXACTLY THE SAME as the last one essentially and it costs $350. 

I can certify you on anything you want by giving you a letter saying so if you want me to. Doesnt mean its worth anything or recognized by anyone. This cert is a JOKE and will not be taken serious by ANYBODY beyond this forum.

-- Edited by Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX on Wednesday 30th of March 2011 06:17:00 PM

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 Let's LOOK at Certifications, here is PWNA

PWNA Approved Education/Certification

Save money and trouble by avoiding the common mistakes that cost YOU money and sales.

• Learn the facts about pressure washing equipment and tools before you over-spend or under-spend.
• Learn how to make more money pressure washing and spend less time on the job.
• Shave months or years off of your the pressure washing company "Learning Curve" by signing up for this class. Learn how to extend your season and add to your bottom line.
• Earn Certification from the Power Washing Contractors in North America and separate your company from your competition in your customers' eyes.

PWNA offers courses in Power Washing Basics, Deck Restoration, Residential Marketing & Bidding, Job and Chemical Safety, Environmental Power Washing, and Kitchen Exhaust Cleaning. Each one of the classes will include an extensive manual designed exclusively for PWNA members. These manuals are available separately through PWNA.

Purchase PWNA manuals at our on-line store: http://store.pwnastore.com/

The Power Washing Contractors in North America currently offer certification in three areas: Kitchen Exhaust Cleaning, Wood Restoration and Preservation, and Environmental Awareness and Cleaning. The certification programs are updated on a regular basis to be sure that what is taught is the based on the latest information available. Two-day "Boot Camps" are available each year with time allotted for certification tests, plus addition classes throughout the year.

 

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PWNA Current Certification and Training Program's Are Presented By:

 

 

Phil Ackland's 5-Day Kitchen Exhaust Class - 5 Day Training & Certification

Phil Ackland's 2-Day Cleaner's Seminar - Certification & Training for Experienced Cleaners

By THEIR own admission, their Certs are all about Marketing "Earn Certification from the Power Washing Contractors in North America and separate your company from your competition in your customers' eyes"

 

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Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

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Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX wrote:

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I never asked for cert to begin with. Chris gave it to me when I joined. I hereby renouce the letters under my name on the left side of this forum. Wheew I feel better.

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 I gave you a more "appropriate title" 

 

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