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Wish we had this information 4 years ago while doing window cleaning, a customer asked a newby of mine to bleach her tracks (lol) and handed him a gallon of bleach which slipped out of his hands and spilled on the carpet......ouch!!! That was my first and only insurance claim. Had we known to immediately dilute it with hydrogen peroxide, would of certainly saved me some money!

Did i read that right?

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So how do we use it to protect the plants??

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http://www.pburch.net/dyeing/FAQ/neutralizingdischarge.shtml

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Im starting feel like a scientist. In fact a customer called me one the other day. Thought it was pretty funny since most of my friends have just the opposite opinion of me.

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does anyone have a resource for these chemicals?

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Roof Cleaning Kissimmee FL 407-452-4526 wrote:

I have always used thiosulfite to rinse my pumps etc with. I began using it to rinse landscaping down too and it has made a difference. I got the idea from when I use it to lower Chlorine levels in my pools after super super chlorinating them after some kid sheds some soup in them.



I never tried it, always just used plenty of water, and then more plenty of water.
But here is some stuff about it I googled

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Sodium thiosulfate is used to remove heavy metals from
polluted streams. It maintains a dual role as a potent
antioxidant and chelator of calcium and other toxic substances.

Sodium thiosulfate is an exciting natural medical substance useful in a surprisingly broad range of clinical situations. Though normally used intravenously, orally and transdermally it can and should be used for treating tap, distilled and reverse osmosis water for water detoxification, mineralization and other extended health benefits. It is extremely inexpensive, safe to use and widely available. The EPA states, “Sodium thiosulfate has been safely used for over 100 years as a therapeutic agent; medical uses of sodium thiosulfate have been well documented since 1895.” Sodium thiosulfate is classified by the FDA as a Direct Food Substance Affirmed as Generally Recognized as Safe.

Sodium thiosulfate is a natural substance found in hot
water springs. It is one of the secret ingredients,
which gives these springs their healing power.

Intravenous sodium thiosulfate is currently used as an antidote for the treatment of cyanide poisoning and prevention of toxicities of cisplatin cancer therapies. It is used as a food and medicinal preservative and topically used as an antifungal medication. The sulfur smell component of the hot mineral springs is sodium thiosulfate. Thiosulfate is unique; it reacts with free radicals (oxygen) to form a sodium sulfate compound which prevents the radicals from destroying or attacking the cells. This is perhaps why the elderly like to visit hot mineral springs.

Sodium thiosulfate may be effective in
reducing some chemically induced cancers.
US EPA


Pet shops all know and sell sodium thiosulfate as a de-chlorinator used in fish tanks to remove the chlorine (and other halogen compounds) so the toxicity of these chemicals do not kill the fish. One can buy it in 1 kilo bags from a chemical supply store. We need very little of it and it is mixed 10% sodium thiosulfate added with 90% water. It can be used in our own drinking water to rid it of cancer causing components. We need to be sure to eliminate the chlorine from the water we drink and bathe in. Chlorine in bath water is inhaled and absorbed, especially from hot water. This is important as chlorine is a deadly poison. It can produce fatigue and tiredness after the bath. Industrial chemist, J.P. Bercz, Ph.D., showed in 1992 that chlorinated water alters and destroys unsaturated essential fatty acids (EFAs), the building blocks of people's brains and central nervous systems. The compound hypochlorite, created when chlorine mixes with water, generates excess free radicals; these oxidize EFAs, turning them rancid. Both chlorine and fluoride inhibit the stomach's ability to produce HCl, and impair the ability of beneficial flora to grow in the gut.

While taking a warm shower or lounging in a hot tub filled with chlorinated water one inhales chloroform. Even worse, warm water opens the pores, causing the skin to act like a sponge. One will absorb and inhale more chlorine in a 10-minute shower than by drinking eight glasses of the same water. A window from the shower room open to the outdoors removes chloroform from the shower room air, but to prevent absorption of chlorine through the skin, a shower-head that removes chlorine from shower water is a must. In the bath water the solution of course is sodium thiosulfate. Swimming pools, often with high chlorine concentrations are also a danger, especially for children who already have damaged or deficient sulfate pathways.[ii]

Sodium thiosulfate (STS) is a calcium
chelating agent with antioxidant properties.
--Dr. Carlos E. Araya


Figure 1. (A) Initial three-phase bone scan demonstrating soft tissue accumulation
in thighs, distal femur, proximal tibia, and forearms. There is intense uptake in the
myocardium and early accumulation in the lungs. (B) Three months later, the
calcium deposition in the thighs and forearms is less significant. However,
there still is calcification in the heart, lungs, and para-articular surfaces.

The beneficial effects of sodium thiosulfate (STS) are thought to be due in part to its ability to enhance the solubility of calcium deposits. STS has a small molecular weight of 248 (Na2S2O3) and in patients with normal renal function has a serum half-life of 15 min. STS facilitates the mobilization of calcium from vessels affected by calcium deposits.

Intravenous STS seems beneficial, has mild adverse
effects, and is well tolerated in children and young adults.
STS dosage was 25 g/1.73 m2 per dose intravenously.
Dr. Carlos E. Araya

Dr. Carlos E. Araya et al[iii] successfully used this relatively nontoxic substance, which been reported as adjuvant treatment of several conditions involving disorders of calcium homeostasis. Yatzidis described its benefits by decreasing the rate of new kidney stone development in 34 patients with recurrent calcium urolithiasis. Prompted by these excellent results, intravenous STS was administered after hemodialysis to three patients with ESRD and tumoral calcinosis for a period of 6 to 12 mo. Two of the patients had regression of the calcified mass as well as improved motility of the affected joints. STS was given for a period of 9 yr to a patient with nephrocalcinosis as a result of renal tubular acidosis type 1. There was no further deterioration of his condition, and the discontinuation of the medication was accompanied by recurrence of renal colic.

Sodium thiosulfate may be tried to treat arsenic poisoning.
When used in combination with sodium molybdate sodium
thiosulfate may be useful for the treatment of copper poisoning.[iv]
Presumably the sulfate moiety may react with and chelate this
and other heavy metals, allowing their removal.
It is also used to clean up environmental mercury spills.[v]

Sodium thiosulfate is not only non toxic it is life giving. Just add a couple of drops of sodium thiosulfate and fulvic to plants and they will grow and bloom quickly and beautifully though one will observe that fulvic acid alone doesn't work well without the presence of sodium thiosulfate.[vi] Interestingly this material from hot spring waters acts like sea water in that both can have dramatic life giving effects. Traditional scientific thinking would have us believe that after the tsunami-affected land in Indonesia's Aceh province was flooded crops grown from the land would be devastated by the salt water. But many farmers shook off the shock of the catastrophe and planted seeds and grew new crops. What farmers found out was that the soil grew crops stronger and heavier than anyone had seen in half a century of farming there. One positive from the disaster was the discovery that sea water holds the secret to soil fertility. What we need to understand is that it is the minerals in the ocean that are the ultimate seasoning for soil, for plants, animals and humans alike.[vii] (Magnesium Oil thus is a great fertilizer for it is condensed sea water with almost all the salt removed.)

The sea water turned out to be a great fertilizer.
We are looking at yields twice as high as last year.
--Muhammad Yacob

Sodium thiosulfate (SOE-dee-um thye-oh-SUL-fate) may be used to lessen some of the side effects of cisplatin (a cancer medicine). Reporting in the July issue of the Journal of Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics, researchers with the Portland U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs Medical Center and Oregon Health Sciences University have found that they can prevent or sharply reduce hearing loss with sodium thiosulfate. Dr. Ed Neuwelt reported, "When we used the drugs such as sodium thiosulfate, it binds the platinum and prevents the platinum from injuring the outer hair cells." Sodium thiosulfate is the first medicinal substance shown to prevent chemotherapy-induced hearing loss. This is important for approximately a third to one-half of cancer patients treated with the platinum-based chemotherapy agent cisplatin develop some degree of communication difficulty due to hearing loss.

Sodium thiosulfate does not affect the endocrine system, except as a
detoxifying agent of compounds that have been shown to adversely

affect the endocrine system (i.e. chlorine and other reactant species).
--US EPA

It is also used with another medicine in the emergency treatment of cyanide poisoning.[viii] Sodium thiosulfate is a water soluble salt and reducing agent that reacts with oxidizing agents. Although its exact mechanism of action is unknown, thiosulfate likely provides an exogenous source of sulfur, thereby hastening the detoxification of cyanide through the enzyme rhodanese (thiosulfate cyanide sulfurtransferase) which converts cyanide to the relatively nontoxic, excretable thiocyanate ion. In addition, this agent neutralizes the reactive alkylating species of nitrogen mustard, thereby decreasing skin toxicity related to nitrogen mustard extravasation.

Though it is not recognized in research sodium thiosulfate may also be helpful with our joints and rheumatism which also come under free radical attack. This is not imagination since people with arthritis and rheumatism do go for treatment in many high sulfur (rich in sodium thiosulfate) springs for their cure. This is why MSM is also effective against arthritis as well, due to the sulfur content.

92% of autistic children seem to be wasting sulfate in the
urine; for blood plasma levels are typically low and urinary
levels are high. There is also an abnormal cysteine to sulfate ratio.[ix]
--Dr. Rosemary Waring

Sulfate is the most oxidized form of sulfur. It doesn't need to be oxidized any more, so supplementing or bathing in sulfate supplies what is lacking because of the body's inability to oxidize the sulfur in foods. This is especially important for autistic children.[x] Most children on the autism spectrum are very low in sulfate and may be as low as 15 percent of the amount in neurologically typical people. People with low or no ability to convert compounds to sulfate have problems handling environmental chemicals, some medications, and even some chemicals produced within the body. They include people with other conditions such as Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease, rheumatoid arthritis, and chemical sensitivities.[xi]

 



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Dave Dykstra wrote:

O.K.  If miracle grow will help plants not absorb the Sh, and sodium hydroxide will neutralize SH, and some garderners mix the 2 together to boost the effectiveness of the miracle grow, would it help us to spray this on some of the more " expensive " landscaping before spraying a roof ?   Doing a little thinking.....



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ccan we nice this to premium member section

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wow Chris T. great post on Sodium thiosulfate. wow definatley should keep some on at all times. maybe start adding it to my drinking water and as a hand wash. I wonder if SH has a part in some of my current medical symptoms; fatigue, memory loss, etc.?

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We need to be sure to eliminate the chlorine from the water we drink and bathe in. Chlorine in bath water is inhaled and absorbed, especially from hot water. This is important as chlorine is a deadly poison. It can produce fatigue and tiredness after the bath. Industrial chemist, J.P. Bercz, Ph.D., showed in 1992 that chlorinated water alters and destroys unsaturated essential fatty acids (EFAs), the building blocks of people's brains and central nervous systems. The compound hypochlorite, created when chlorine mixes with water, generates excess free radicals; these oxidize EFAs, turning them rancid. Both chlorine and fluoride inhibit the stomach's ability to produce HCl, and impair the ability of beneficial flora to grow in the gut.

While taking a warm shower or lounging in a hot tub filled with chlorinated water one inhales chloroform. Even worse, warm water opens the pores, causing the skin to act like a sponge. One will absorb and inhale more chlorine in a 10-minute shower than by drinking eight glasses of the same water. A window from the shower room open to the outdoors removes chloroform from the shower room air, but to prevent absorption of chlorine through the skin, a shower-head that removes chlorine from shower water is a must. In the bath water the solution of course is sodium thiosulfate. Swimming pools, often with high chlorine concentrations are also a danger, especially for children who already have damaged or deficient sulfate pathways.[ii]

Sodium thiosulfate (STS) is a calcium
chelating agent with antioxidant properties.
--Dr. Carlos E. Araya

Now I'm afraid to take a shower....lol

 



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Yay well maybe we can get back on the subject =]

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I think the subject has been covered.

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