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RE: The punishment does not fit the crime

Aug 19, 2010

Two things, number one thank's to all you guys who make this board possible. It's the only one I look at now for months because I think it stands alone. It sounds like Bill Booze really got slammed with this nonsense,I find it stressful just reading about it. I want to purchase some green apple.....any names and numbers of distributers please PM to me as I need by the end of next week. Chris, Bill and the others thanks for what you do and have done, now get some much needed rest!

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I think it is time for the whole story to be told, from the beginning. So, I am going to give MY view of it all FWIW. Lori and Ron had a deal, Ron did his part. Lori TOLD me she planned to give away the skid, I told Ron. SOMETHING went terribly wrong! In MY heart, this is what I believe happened. I think Lori's father Rex nixed the deal, and would not allow Lori to deliver what she promised. Instead of Lori coming clean, and blaming her Father, she did what your own daughter might, she acted to protect her Daddy from what she perceived would be public embarassment and humiliation. I believe her silence on this matter was taken by Ron as her Milking the situation for free publicity. I don't blame Ron one BIT for being pissed, but I can also see Lori's side, although I feel her way of handling this situation was all wrong. Her choosing to remain silent was an over reaction, and the wrong course of action, IMHO. W/O defending herself, and remaining silent, she caused even more mistrust and anger.
HAD she just came clean, and said this "Guys, I wanted to donate the Skid, but my Father stopped me, i am sorry" I feel the whole forum woud have embraced her for being honest. And w/o bad mouthing Rex, he really has no CLUE where his business comes from.
Lori does not handle stress well, as we have all seen. It is my opinion that Lori was just fine here at RCIA before she committed to Ron. And Ron is NOT the 'bad guy" here either. He has every right to be pissed, and I was pissed at her too for lying to me when she promised to do what she promised. As the anger I had for her subsided, and I could think clearly again, I see a girl trying to protect her daddy. This is how I see it. The stress of a deal she made and was unable to live up to sent her over the edge. Do NOT blame Ron guys, he lived up to his part. Lori should never have made this deal. Yes, I have heard that PWP was promised 5000 dollars for Rex to speak ..... whatever. But since we are starting at the Beginning of all this chit, it was the stress of a deal gone bad that started Lori on her downward spiral. Think about it anyone ? Was there any problem with Lori before all this ?

Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 · Aug 19, 2010

As I said before distributors come and distributors go. I want to thank Bill for all of the BS that he has had to put up with. The convention and the skid give away that did not happen were very stressfull on Bill being caught between Ron who is a well meaning bully and Lori who is a well meaning vendor that did not follow through with her promises. I am not degrading either character but apologies between them are in order.

Lori has stepped up to the plate and offered here expertise from what she has been taught to many of us. Some people disagree with what she has said and proceeded to bash her for saying something. Does that make her bad? No.

I would like to see some more vendors voicing their opinions and trying to offer opinions on how to clean roofs. So far they have been few and far between. They are too busy running their business and not trying to help us out on this forum. I am not talking about trying to just sell us items but actually trying to resolve questions by RCIA forum members. That is why we have this forum. To help each other out.

Lori with Pressure Washer Service Inc is the only distributor that has ever offered suggestions on our board on a regular basis. I believe that her phone is not answered as often as it should as a result. I was at her office the day before the convention and it was a mad house because they were so busy. I was there for more that 4 hours before she had time to help me. Once she was able to find time to help me she tuned everything else out till I was taken care of. I have never had a distributor treat me like that. No body is perfect. That includes myself & Lori. That is why I believe this ban needs to be lifted ASAP before we loose a good distributor that supports our forum.

Clyde you seem like a good concerned upstanding forum member. I do not know why you are so upset? You won a pump and accessories did you not or have I misunderstood the situation?

You have a working rig and what you won were spares weren't they?

Then why was it so important that you had to have everything so quickly that you got for free? Vendors have to make a living also. Why is it that you want Lori's head on a platter? If I was a vendor and was treated like that I would never give any thing away again.

Lets all take a breather and apologize where apologies are due and get back on the road to making RCIA the best forum there ever was.

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Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

I think it is time for the whole story to be told, from the beginning. So, I am going to give MY view of it all FWIW. Lori and Ron had a deal, Ron did his part. Lori TOLD me she planned to give away the skid, I told Ron. SOMETHING went terribly wrong! In MY heart, this is what I believe happened. I think Lori's father Rex nixed the deal, and would not allow Lori to deliver what she promised. Instead of Lori coming clean, and blaming her Father, she did what your own daughter might, she acted to protect her Daddy from what she perceived would be public embarassment and humiliation. I believe her silence on this matter was taken by Ron as her Milking the situation for free publicity. I don't blame Ron one BIT for being pissed, but I can also see Lori's side, although I feel her way of handling this situation was all wrong. Her choosing to remain silent was an over reaction, and the wrong course of action, IMHO. W/O defending herself, and remaining silent, she caused even more mistrust and anger.
HAD she just came clean, and said this "Guys, I wanted to donate the Skid, but my Father stopped me, i am sorry" I feel the whole forum woud have embraced her for being honest. And w/o bad mouthing Rex, he really has no CLUE where his business comes from.
Lori does not handle stress well, as we have all seen. It is my opinion that Lori was just fine here at RCIA before she committed to Ron. And Ron is NOT the 'bad guy" here either. He has every right to be pissed, and I was pissed at her too for lying to me when she promised to do what she promised. As the anger I had for her subsided, and I could think clearly again, I see a girl trying to protect her daddy. This is how I see it. The stress of a deal she made and was unable to live up to sent her over the edge. Do NOT blame Ron guys, he lived up to his part. Lori should never have made this deal. Yes, I have heard that PWP was promised 5000 dollars for Rex to speak ..... whatever. But since we are starting at the Beginning of all this chit, it was the stress of a deal gone bad that started Lori on her downward spiral. Think about it anyone ? Was there any problem with Lori before all this ?

So Chris you admitting Lori is a freaken liar too, I hate liars, who would like a liar you guys are a trip, must be nice to be a woman to get away with this chit. guys just kiss her azz lol, while she plays you.

i can see right now she will be back, all for her cheap prices lol, what a joke. how pathetic, unbelievable.

i cleaned a 2 million dollar home today and I should of charged more than I did, and the H/O kept bothering me, I felt like saying hey lady what the heck do you want from me I gave you a great price?

If I would of said that I would of been a big fool, the lady would of said hey azz hole I didnt ask you for a cheap price I just want my house cleaned?

Thats the only thing Lori has to offer is cheap prices and lousy service.

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning NJ on Thursday 19th of August 2010 11:35:42 PM

RCIA Founder

Roof Cleaning NJ wrote:

Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

I think it is time for the whole story to be told, from the beginning. So, I am going to give MY view of it all FWIW. Lori and Ron had a deal, Ron did his part. Lori TOLD me she planned to give away the skid, I told Ron. SOMETHING went terribly wrong! In MY heart, this is what I believe happened. I think Lori's father Rex nixed the deal, and would not allow Lori to deliver what she promised. Instead of Lori coming clean, and blaming her Father, she did what your own daughter might, she acted to protect her Daddy from what she perceived would be public embarassment and humiliation. I believe her silence on this matter was taken by Ron as her Milking the situation for free publicity. I don't blame Ron one BIT for being pissed, but I can also see Lori's side, although I feel her way of handling this situation was all wrong. Her choosing to remain silent was an over reaction, and the wrong course of action, IMHO. W/O defending herself, and remaining silent, she caused even more mistrust and anger.
HAD she just came clean, and said this "Guys, I wanted to donate the Skid, but my Father stopped me, i am sorry" I feel the whole forum woud have embraced her for being honest. And w/o bad mouthing Rex, he really has no CLUE where his business comes from.
Lori does not handle stress well, as we have all seen. It is my opinion that Lori was just fine here at RCIA before she committed to Ron. And Ron is NOT the 'bad guy" here either. He has every right to be pissed, and I was pissed at her too for lying to me when she promised to do what she promised. As the anger I had for her subsided, and I could think clearly again, I see a girl trying to protect her daddy. This is how I see it. The stress of a deal she made and was unable to live up to sent her over the edge. Do NOT blame Ron guys, he lived up to his part. Lori should never have made this deal. Yes, I have heard that PWP was promised 5000 dollars for Rex to speak ..... whatever. But since we are starting at the Beginning of all this chit, it was the stress of a deal gone bad that started Lori on her downward spiral. Think about it anyone ? Was there any problem with Lori before all this ?

So Chris you admitting Lori is a freaken liar too, I hate liars, who would like a liar you guys are a trip, must be nice to be a woman to get away with this chit. guys just kiss her azz lol, while she plays you.

NOT taking sides in this Clyde, but let's pretend you were an Alcoholic (you are NOT) who was often passed out drunk, on the couch ? Now, I make a suprise visit to Jersey to see you, knock on your door, and your little girl answers ? She knows daddy is passed out drunk, so she lies and says you are not home ? Does that make her a Liar we should all hate ? Believe me when I tell you her Father aint got a clue where his business is coming from. Even at the RCIA Social, I showed Rex almost 150 of his customers, and he looked at me and said 'Chris, this is NOT where my business comes from" In MY heart Clyde, I believe Lori wanted to give the skid away, but Daddy Rex stopped her. Lori got a lot of business from Ron's forum, why would she want to cross him ? She even told ME, and she PROMISED me too. I even told her that Ron is my good friend, and screwing him over I would take as an act of War against ME. Her father came to my home to deliver an order, I played dumb, and asked him about the skid giveaway. He said there was no way he would allow it to happen. He said he did not care what Lori said, it was his company, and it was not gonna happen. I told him about RCIA and PWI, and asked him if he realized how much business he got from these boards. He replied that his website was bringing in the business, LOL he even remarked that people were calling him on his cell phone from Texas. He really believe his success has come from 20 years of busting his azz. He does not have a clue!
It is my opinion Clyde that Lori wrote a check that her Dad would not let her Cash.
Push came to shove, Ron demanded she make good, and rightfully so, and she chose to protect her Family. This is what I believe. I may be wrong, and I have been wrong before, but this is what I believe.

Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 · Aug 20, 2010

Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

Roof Cleaning NJ wrote:

Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

I think it is time for the whole story to be told, from the beginning. So, I am going to give MY view of it all FWIW. Lori and Ron had a deal, Ron did his part. Lori TOLD me she planned to give away the skid, I told Ron. SOMETHING went terribly wrong! In MY heart, this is what I believe happened. I think Lori's father Rex nixed the deal, and would not allow Lori to deliver what she promised. Instead of Lori coming clean, and blaming her Father, she did what your own daughter might, she acted to protect her Daddy from what she perceived would be public embarassment and humiliation. I believe her silence on this matter was taken by Ron as her Milking the situation for free publicity. I don't blame Ron one BIT for being pissed, but I can also see Lori's side, although I feel her way of handling this situation was all wrong. Her choosing to remain silent was an over reaction, and the wrong course of action, IMHO. W/O defending herself, and remaining silent, she caused even more mistrust and anger.
HAD she just came clean, and said this "Guys, I wanted to donate the Skid, but my Father stopped me, i am sorry" I feel the whole forum woud have embraced her for being honest. And w/o bad mouthing Rex, he really has no CLUE where his business comes from.
Lori does not handle stress well, as we have all seen. It is my opinion that Lori was just fine here at RCIA before she committed to Ron. And Ron is NOT the 'bad guy" here either. He has every right to be pissed, and I was pissed at her too for lying to me when she promised to do what she promised. As the anger I had for her subsided, and I could think clearly again, I see a girl trying to protect her daddy. This is how I see it. The stress of a deal she made and was unable to live up to sent her over the edge. Do NOT blame Ron guys, he lived up to his part. Lori should never have made this deal. Yes, I have heard that PWP was promised 5000 dollars for Rex to speak ..... whatever. But since we are starting at the Beginning of all this chit, it was the stress of a deal gone bad that started Lori on her downward spiral. Think about it anyone ? Was there any problem with Lori before all this ?

So Chris you admitting Lori is a freaken liar too, I hate liars, who would like a liar you guys are a trip, must be nice to be a woman to get away with this chit. guys just kiss her azz lol, while she plays you.

NOT taking sides in this Clyde, but let's pretend you were an Alcoholic (you are NOT) who was often passed out drunk, on the couch ? Now, I make a suprise visit to Jersey to see you, knock on your door, and your little girl answers ? She knows daddy is passed out drunk, so she lies and says you are not home ? Does that make her a Liar we should all hate ? Believe me when I tell you her Father aint got a clue where his business is coming from. Even at the RCIA Social, I showed Rex almost 150 of his customers, and he looked at me and said 'Chris, this is NOT where my business comes from" In MY heart Clyde, I believe Lori wanted to give the skid away, but Daddy Rex stopped her. Lori got a lot of business from Ron's forum, why would she want to cross him ? She even told ME, and she PROMISED me too. I even told her that Ron is my good friend, and screwing him over I would take as an act of War against ME. Her father came to my home to deliver an order, I played dumb, and asked him about the skid giveaway. He said there was no way he would allow it to happen. He said he did not care what Lori said, it was his company, and it was not gonna happen. I told him about RCIA and PWI, and asked him if he realized how much business he got from these boards. He replied that his website was bringing in the business, LOL he even remarked that people were calling him on his cell phone from Texas. He really believe his success has come from 20 years of busting his azz. He does not have a clue!
It is my opinion Clyde that Lori wrote a check that her Dad would not let her Cash.
Push came to shove, Ron demanded she make good, and rightfully so, and she chose to protect her Family. This is what I believe. I may be wrong, and I have been wrong before, but this is what I believe.

You hit the nail on the head Chris. And I am the guy from Texas that called Rex on his cell phone. lol

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Well that was a lot of reading, I hope we can move forward and get on track again. Everyone in here is a business type person, use who you want and as for Lori being banned than it is a moderators choice but either way I will use her if I choose as many other vendors. Everyone in here have a good day and happy cleaning.

RCIA Founder

Roof Cleaning NJ wrote:

Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

I think it is time for the whole story to be told, from the beginning. So, I am going to give MY view of it all FWIW. Lori and Ron had a deal, Ron did his part. Lori TOLD me she planned to give away the skid, I told Ron. SOMETHING went terribly wrong! In MY heart, this is what I believe happened. I think Lori's father Rex nixed the deal, and would not allow Lori to deliver what she promised. Instead of Lori coming clean, and blaming her Father, she did what your own daughter might, she acted to protect her Daddy from what she perceived would be public embarassment and humiliation. I believe her silence on this matter was taken by Ron as her Milking the situation for free publicity. I don't blame Ron one BIT for being pissed, but I can also see Lori's side, although I feel her way of handling this situation was all wrong. Her choosing to remain silent was an over reaction, and the wrong course of action, IMHO. W/O defending herself, and remaining silent, she caused even more mistrust and anger.
HAD she just came clean, and said this "Guys, I wanted to donate the Skid, but my Father stopped me, i am sorry" I feel the whole forum woud have embraced her for being honest. And w/o bad mouthing Rex, he really has no CLUE where his business comes from.
Lori does not handle stress well, as we have all seen. It is my opinion that Lori was just fine here at RCIA before she committed to Ron. And Ron is NOT the 'bad guy" here either. He has every right to be pissed, and I was pissed at her too for lying to me when she promised to do what she promised. As the anger I had for her subsided, and I could think clearly again, I see a girl trying to protect her daddy. This is how I see it. The stress of a deal she made and was unable to live up to sent her over the edge. Do NOT blame Ron guys, he lived up to his part. Lori should never have made this deal. Yes, I have heard that PWP was promised 5000 dollars for Rex to speak ..... whatever. But since we are starting at the Beginning of all this chit, it was the stress of a deal gone bad that started Lori on her downward spiral. Think about it anyone ? Was there any problem with Lori before all this ?

So Chris you admitting Lori is a freaken liar too, I hate liars, who would like a liar you guys are a trip, must be nice to be a woman to get away with this chit. guys just kiss her azz lol, while she plays you.

i can see right now she will be back, all for her cheap prices lol, what a joke. how pathetic, unbelievable.
i cleaned a 2 million dollar home today and I should of charged more than I did, and the H/O kept bothering me, I felt like saying hey lady what the heck do you want from me I gave you a great price?

If I would of said that I would of been a big fool, the lady would of said hey azz hole I didnt ask you for a cheap price I just want my house cleaned?
Thats the only thing Lori has to offer is cheap prices and lousy service.

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning NJ on Thursday 19th of August 2010 11:35:42 PM

We went to Wal Mart today Clyde to gas up my F 450 Diesel with a 125 gallon tank.
Diesel is 11 cents a gallon cheaper there. My Son was bitching at the long gas lines.
I reminded him we were saving 11 cents a Gallon! Some will buy from Lori because of her low prices, and look the other way if they don't get their hand held. Some want better service, and are willing to pay extra for it. FWIW, Lori has sometimes taken a few Days to return MY calls, so don't feel alone. Her Mom has as much telephone personality as a broken surface cleaner. Rex can be a nice guy, but he is stubborn, opinionated, and can be abrasive. We can ALL show our azz Clyde, even one other distributor I will not mention who has YELLED AT ME, blamed ME for chit he was warned about that failed, imagine that ?
This distributors Ego can get so big it needs it's own Zip Code sometimes! I could do as you have done Clyde and ruin his parade because he fukked with me, once. But maybe he had a bad day the day we got into it ? So, I have chosen to do as Dewayne has done, and forgive him. I am not gonna sugar coat this chit Clyde, no one is more pizzed at Lori for what happened then me. But like Dewayne has done, I have chosen to let it go.

Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 · guest

Maybe I can work on my novel a little more?? I really don't like reading or writing 5 page posts. Good to see that this is becoming a decent discussion. I will have more time to read and write this evening. Have to look in the admin thread to see were we are with the discussion there. Looks like I received an email apology from PWP today. Have to read that later. Just wanted to pop in and see were this conversation went.

Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 · Aug 20, 2010

Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 wrote:
Maybe I can work on my novel a little more?? I really don't like reading or writing 5 page posts. Good to see that this is becoming a decent discussion. I will have more time to read and write this evening. Have to look in the admin thread to see were we are with the discussion there. Looks like I received an email apology from PWP today. Have to read that later. Just wanted to pop in and see were this conversation went.

May the healing begin. I want all distributors to have equal access to this forum. Especially those that try to help us and not just try to sell us on their products. This forum is about spreading the knowledge of roof cleaning not limiting it. That is why I love it. We all have our differences sometimes and react differently. Guys will allways react differently from gals and that is a fact. Daddys girls will allways protect Daddy & vice versa even when Daddy does not see the light of day. Lets carry on like a mature organization and make this an "open" instead of a "biased" forum to all members again. Drama is not fun but it happens when all of us are putting our hearts & precious time into this forum. I had a hard time sleeping last night over this and had to see how things were going this morning. I hope everyone has a great day today. It is going to be another hot SOB day here in Houston TX. We have had temps wth a heat index above 107 for a week now...and did not get a lick of rain that you in Florida had. It makes for a hell of a day on the roof...

Southside Equipment · Guest

Chris, I don't think it's as close to her protecting her daddy so much as it's her committing her dad's business to an obligation without his approval. Say your son tells one of his buddies that he can borrow your truck. You come out of the house, see this kid climbing into your vehicle, and tell him GTFO!

RCIA Founder

Southside Equipment wrote:

Chris, I don't think it's as close to her protecting her daddy so much as it's her committing her dad's business to an obligation without his approval. Say your son tells one of his buddies that he can borrow your truck. You come out of the house, see this kid climbing into your vehicle, and tell him GTFO!

In THAT scenario, she would be protecting herself, instead of her Father, from public embarassment for making a decision she was not authorized to make. One of the two scenarios is probably correct I think. When I talked to her back when Ron was having serious doubts about her willingness to deliver on what she promised, I took it upon myself to call her. I consider Ron Musgraves not only a personal friend, but a friend to RCIA as well. Though Ron is far from a whining baby, I could see my friend was stressed, and rightfully so, over all this skid giveaway stuff. Not only did I ask her, and give her the chance to back out, I told her in no uncertain terms that if she messed with my friend Ron, I would consider it an act of WAR against me, and RCIA. She again assured me the skid giveaway would happen.
Now, in your scenario, where she was not authorized to make that decision, this would have been the time to back out, instead of pizzing me off. This is why I believe she believed in her mind she could do the skid giveaway. You also have to know Rex. He honestly hasn't a CLUE where his business is coming from. Even at the RCIA social, with 150 people there, he still refused to acknowledge that those were his main business! He is hard headed almost to the point of stupidity about where his business is coming from. He drives all over Florida fixing pressure washing equipment, and delivering stuff for customers. Lori runs the shop, with her Mom. He honestly believes his web site, and 20 years of work in the pressure washing business is responsible for him having to hire a bunch of new employees.
He does smile with pride though, and says "My daughter Lori is doing a great job"
PWP is very much a Mom and Pop with daughter show. They are ALL a bunch of dysfunctional workaholics over there, but then we all are. None of us are in this business because we sang too loud in our Church, LOL
Rex is different, his wife is different, and so is Lori, and so am I. This whole Industry is made up of 'different" people. I have tried to " Live, and Let Live" in my old age.
I figure if people tolerate my eccentricities, I should tolerate theirs. In the final analysis, people will shop and buy where they want. Like you said in a previous post, you can't have low prices, and good service too, or something to that effect.

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Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 wrote:

Maybe I can work on my novel a little more?? I really don't like reading or writing 5 page posts. Good to see that this is becoming a decent discussion. I will have more time to read and write this evening. Have to look in the admin thread to see were we are with the discussion there. Looks like I received an email apology from PWP today. Have to read that later. Just wanted to pop in and see were this conversation went.

Here is MY update...

The "ALL CLEAR SIREN" has gone off!

Lori and I spoke last night. After a couple mins of saying "I'm sorry" from both of us, then we were talking shop...just like nothing happened.

I think someone will be posting shortly about their phone call they made today.

Happy Cleaning!

RCIA Founder

Today has not been one of my best days cry

I had two cancellations today for next week, and you know why. BIG jobs too. Seems some people are working for nothing in Tampa yawn

Out of frustration and anger, I read myself to sleep. I just woke up from that Nap in my chair.
This is what I was reading before I went to sleep. It seems appropriate to this thread.

Is it okay to feel anger and want justice for the person we need to forgive?

This question presents another reason to pray for the person we need to forgive. We can pray for God to deal with the injustices, for God to judge the person's life, and then we can leave that prayer at the altar. We no longer have to carry the anger. Although it is normal for us to feel anger toward sin and injustice, it is not our job to judge the other person in their sin.

Luke 6:37

Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

Why must we forgive?

The best reason to forgive is because Jesus commanded us to forgive. We learn from Scripture, if we don't forgive, neither will we be forgiven:

Matthew 6:14-16

For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

We also forgive so that our prayers will not be hindered:

Mark 11:25

And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins.

In summary and in closing, we forgive out of obedience to the Lord. It is a choice, a decision we make. However, as we do this "forgiving," we discover the command is in place for our own good, and we receive the reward of our forgiveness - freedom.

Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 · Aug 20, 2010

Sorry to hear Chris. Bummer. No wonder you did not answer your phone. cry

Roof Cleaning Missouri 417-230-8103 · Guest

garyw wrote:

Roof Cleaning NJ wrote:

Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX wrote:

Heres my 2 cents.

Regardless of whether any rules were broken or not, Lori being here was a cancer. It degraded this board whether you like it or not. Alot of guys like her, alot of guys dont. When someone becomes a cancer, they have to leave.

I have seen Chris Tucker attacked on other boards, defend himself, then get banned. At first I protested but then realized that after Chris was banned, the instigators stopped causing trouble and the board went back to normal. Was it right he was banned? No. But it WAS necessary.

Lori is not a good person, doesnt know what she's talking about without parroting wrong info givin to her by her dad who knows nothing about roof cleaning either, lied to alot of people, drug Lonnie and Nikkis name through the mud, gives terrible customer service 75% of the time, threatened to sure everyone who called her out, etc....

She needed to go and the right decision was made.

I agree 100 percent with Scott, I remember I got into it with Scott back awhile ago because of the things he said about Lori, but now I got a taste of Lori and how nasty she can be, I despise her now, I can't stand her, I never want to see her back here. And what about how she tried to black male Dwayne, if any of you can live with that shame on you, she is a low life for doing that!

i dont care about her freakin low prices because her service sucks.

and she is a liar too, she lied to me, I don't do business with liars.

Lori is about as low as the come, I'm so mad because she deceived me in a big way.

I was warned by many and I didn't see it, and those of you that like Lori, just wait till she lies to you.

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning NJ on Thursday 19th of August 2010 07:58:42 PM
This action was promoted by a "lynch mob" that totally ignored the fact that NO RCIA rules were violated in public on this forum. Show me the proof! Sorry, but personal opinions and who you chose to do business with or not, do not qualify as "rules" on RCIA!

And personal opinions are just that---PERSONAL

very well said Gary and mike....

Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 · guest

Roof Cleaning Missouri 417-230-8103 wrote:

garyw wrote:

Roof Cleaning NJ wrote:

Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX wrote:

Heres my 2 cents.

Regardless of whether any rules were broken or not, Lori being here was a cancer. It degraded this board whether you like it or not. Alot of guys like her, alot of guys dont. When someone becomes a cancer, they have to leave.

I have seen Chris Tucker attacked on other boards, defend himself, then get banned. At first I protested but then realized that after Chris was banned, the instigators stopped causing trouble and the board went back to normal. Was it right he was banned? No. But it WAS necessary.

Lori is not a good person, doesnt know what she's talking about without parroting wrong info givin to her by her dad who knows nothing about roof cleaning either, lied to alot of people, drug Lonnie and Nikkis name through the mud, gives terrible customer service 75% of the time, threatened to sure everyone who called her out, etc....

She needed to go and the right decision was made.

I agree 100 percent with Scott, I remember I got into it with Scott back awhile ago because of the things he said about Lori, but now I got a taste of Lori and how nasty she can be, I despise her now, I can't stand her, I never want to see her back here. And what about how she tried to black male Dwayne, if any of you can live with that shame on you, she is a low life for doing that!

i dont care about her freakin low prices because her service sucks.

and she is a liar too, she lied to me, I don't do business with liars.

Lori is about as low as the come, I'm so mad because she deceived me in a big way.

I was warned by many and I didn't see it, and those of you that like Lori, just wait till she lies to you.

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning NJ on Thursday 19th of August 2010 07:58:42 PM
This action was promoted by a "lynch mob" that totally ignored the fact that NO RCIA rules were violated in public on this forum. Show me the proof! Sorry, but personal opinions and who you chose to do business with or not, do not qualify as "rules" on RCIA!

And personal opinions are just that---PERSONAL

very well said Gary and mike....

Did you even read my post?? I gave the proof.

I guess it's just a personall matter that she operates under a false name, slanders the moderators here, and sexually manipulates members who later leave.

guest

Maybe Lori just needs a good spanking? lol

Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 · Aug 22, 2010

Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 wrote:
read my post?? I gave the proof.

I guess it's just a personall matter that she operates under a false name, slanders the moderators here, and sexually manipulates members who later leave.

Operating under a false name can be understandable considering how easy it is to be stalked from the internet to find your personal info, home phone #, etc.

slanders the moderators here - that is not good

sexually manipulates members who later leave. Was it that bad? I only know of one member that had a run in like that & they made up once he got his breath back. But he did not elave.

This only happened because of the Tampa NCE event that turned ugly when she made a promise that she could not follow through with. Ron & Chris have both forgiven her. It is time for you to also and go back to writing your novel which I hope is not about drama as we have had enough of that...lol

Lets let Lori back on so that she can start publicly apologizing to the moderators & members whom she has offended rather than in private on the phone. It takes a big man or in this case a woman to admit that she is wrong and apologize for it. Mistakes & bad judgements are made in the heat of the moment as is what happened. Nobody is perfect and or opinions all differ. I am here to learn on this forum and we need as many vendors to support it as possible. At the moment there are too few and we are banning one who helps the newbies in particular. It is the newbies that provide future growth of RCIA and it leadership. A 2nd chance is in order for her with a strong warning that there will not be a 3rd.