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JON CARR · Guest

tough safety rope

sweetwaterfish · Guest

There are some laws that can't be ignored...the law of gravity would be one such law!.

I like the bow ad arrow idea.

I've not used a harness/rope that has come in contact with love, I've only used them from lifts. ut I know that some of the rope I've had on my rig that gotten splasshed with love had not faired too well. I keep a 50' length of rope for emergencies. Its basically "spring line" rope for a small boat. Colorful woven outer shell, white nylon type material inside. I needed to make an emergency pull cord for my generator the other day and cut some off. If litterally fell apart in my hands due to exposure to SH. SO that what NOT to use!

I would thing a solid woven type rope would be best.

BCRoofClean · Guest

JON CARR wrote:

I am a strong believer in gravity; soooo,I have gone ahead and bought a safety harness for $20 off ebay, used but in very functional condition. Now I wonder what type of rope holds up the best to "roof juice" and abraision. 5/8" seems to be the norm for camlocks and other gear. Also, how does one get 150ft of rope over a 3story high pitch roof???? Bow and arrow with a raquet ball tip and para-cord lead? any tips are appreciated, thanks!

Do some material tests by dipping some rope in the sauce. I don't know what ours is made of but it works well. I use rock climbing rope.

I wrap up a long section of rope and grenade style over the roof from the ladder. Whatever is safe for that height/roof. you have to get creative because ropes catch on the shingles, We always bring foam pads on the roof for safety so we throw an extra one at the ridge so the rope won't mess that up either.

Foam pad/ go to a junk yard and pay the guy $20 and cut out a few car seats.

This works for asphalt only!! it literally stops on the shingles and gives you an excellent roof chair. And enables you to be on impossible pitches and also doubles as a comfortable knee pad for kneenilg.

I've ductaped foam to my knees before in some situations. It can save your life, this is an extremely dangerous job. Remember that above all things. I have friends that are roofers and they think we are crazy for doing our job. As soon as the sauce hits the shingles it's slip city.

Welcome to the forum bud!

Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 · guest

Cotton rope is going to get eaten pretty quickly.
The navy uses a lot of hemp robe, but seeing as it is an organic, it might not hold up well either.
Neoprene has a B rating against 20% sodium hypochlorite, maybe this will help.

I suggest you inspect your safety equipment on a weekly basis, especially if employees are using it. If you are the one always using it inspect it daily. I say this because asking your employees to inspect it daily will probably be something they ignore.

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hey bill what did you do to those fish in cape may?LOL

-- Edited by Roof Washer New Jersey (609) 929-5812 on Thursday 12th of August 2010 10:45:05 AM

Washed-up · guest

Bill said Hemp lol....

AC Lockyer · none

JON CARR wrote:

I am a strong believer in gravity; soooo,I have gone ahead and bought a safety harness for $20 off ebay, used but in very functional condition. Now I wonder what type of rope holds up the best to "roof juice" and abraision. 5/8" seems to be the norm for camlocks and other gear. Also, how does one get 150ft of rope over a 3story high pitch roof???? Bow and arrow with a raquet ball tip and para-cord lead? any tips are appreciated, thanks!

Jon,

OSHA standard is that you have on a full body harness that has its ring in the rear. Then a shock lanyard, a d-ring to a hand brake, then your rope.

We use 5/8 black line. It seems the black line "which is black" hods up to the chem very well. the rough tiles and aggrigate on the shingles beat up the rope before the chem.

Bill Booz will be teaching a roof safety class in Charleston, SC at the NCE event the end of september. I will be loading him up with tons of props, equipment and other junk that will be real interesting. He is going to have an awesome class!!!! dont miss it!

AC

BCRoofClean · Guest

Kevlar rope is awesome and it's bullet proof too, to protect you from those pesky competitors.

guest

AC Lockyer wrote:

JON CARR wrote:

I am a strong believer in gravity; soooo,I have gone ahead and bought a safety harness for $20 off ebay, used but in very functional condition. Now I wonder what type of rope holds up the best to "roof juice" and abraision. 5/8" seems to be the norm for camlocks and other gear. Also, how does one get 150ft of rope over a 3story high pitch roof???? Bow and arrow with a raquet ball tip and para-cord lead? any tips are appreciated, thanks!

Jon,

OSHA standard is that you have on a full body harness that has its ring in the rear. Then a shock lanyard, a d-ring to a hand brake, then your rope.

We use 5/8 black line. It seems the black line "which is black" hods up to the chem very well. the rough tiles and aggrigate on the shingles beat up the rope before the chem.

Bill Booz will be teaching a roof safety class in Charleston, SC at the NCE event the end of september. I will be loading him up with tons of props, equipment and other junk that will be real interesting. He is going to have an awesome class!!!! dont miss it!

AC

Hello AC

What is this black line you are referring to, what's made of, and where do you get it?

Tropf · Guest

Great idea - I've used foam pads for roofing for years, never thought to duct tape some to my knees.

BCRoofClean · Guest

Tropf wrote:

Great idea - I've used foam pads for roofing for years, never thought to duct tape some to my knees.

multi level home with various pitches; where one slope goes into another and my calves were killing me from standing an such a steep pitch all morning so I duck taped them to my knee pads and knelt down to spray the front.

I seem to hit a different type of house everyday. Never two ranchers in a row or anything. As a roof cleaner, we get used to overcoming adversity with ingenuity and improvisation.

Welcome to the forum.

AC Lockyer · none

Roof Cleaning NJ wrote:

AC Lockyer wrote:

JON CARR wrote:

I am a strong believer in gravity; soooo,I have gone ahead and bought a safety harness for $20 off ebay, used but in very functional condition. Now I wonder what type of rope holds up the best to "roof juice" and abraision. 5/8" seems to be the norm for camlocks and other gear. Also, how does one get 150ft of rope over a 3story high pitch roof???? Bow and arrow with a raquet ball tip and para-cord lead? any tips are appreciated, thanks!

Jon,

OSHA standard is that you have on a full body harness that has its ring in the rear. Then a shock lanyard, a d-ring to a hand brake, then your rope.

We use 5/8 black line. It seems the black line "which is black" hods up to the chem very well. the rough tiles and aggrigate on the shingles beat up the rope before the chem.

Bill Booz will be teaching a roof safety class in Charleston, SC at the NCE event the end of september. I will be loading him up with tons of props, equipment and other junk that will be real interesting. He is going to have an awesome class!!!! dont miss it!

AC

Hello AC

What is this black line you are referring to, what's made of, and where do you get it?

Its the rope that SWAT teams use. We get it at the local outdoor shop. Ill try to look at the roll and have that info for yall.

BCRoofClean · Guest

I would imagine its Kevlar rope too. ( since the swat team should be using a bullet proof rope. Lol.)

This company is about a mile form my house and they sell it.
Kevlar Rope

JON CARR · Guest

thanks for the input guys! I'LL check into that "black" rope and see what I can find out. The class B onthe neoprene sounds good. I just don't want something rottin' from the inside out and then I don't find out about it until I'm at the "end of the rope". Like you say 'weekly test/inspection'. This set-up came with two 6' long "shock absorbers" and the plastic shrink wrap is still intact and tight on the absorbers I'll use one and keep the other safe and dry at the shop I guess. I've got a 275lb head-ache ball offa crane cable; it's a cylinder of solid iron about one foot by one foot that i'll strap to a hand truck when a tree or trailer hitch is not available for 'ballast'

ssk · Guest

Hey guys, would you mind sharing your method for tying off up there? I am familiar with tacking a temporary anchor point into joists at the ridge. Throwing the rope over the roof? Ballast? Are you hooking onto a rope that you've secured to something on either side of the roof?

Really curious!

Thanks

-- Edited by ssk on Friday 13th of August 2010 01:57:28 AM

jetstream · Guest

Hello I have a full body harness with a shock lanyard, a d-ring that I use in new construction all the time. My only question is what do you guys tie off to? In new construction its no problem cause you can drill a bunch of screws in flat steel plat with a u bolt to almost anything solid and be fine because the screw holes will be coverd by some one else after you leave.

-- Edited by jetstream on Friday 13th of August 2010 02:34:29 AM

ssk · Guest

Anybody using this kind of thing?

-- Edited by ssk on Friday 13th of August 2010 03:46:51 AM

BCRoofClean · Guest

No sir! I would recommend using something that requires you to manipulate shingles like that. Lifting a shingle up is fine but don't be punching holes through them!

ssk · Guest

BCRoofClean wrote:

No sir! I would recommend using something that requires you to manipulate shingles like that. Lifting a shingle up is fine but don't be punching holes through them!

I'd certainly rather not either.

How do you do it?

I don't want to do it like this jackass : )

(skip to about 1:00 for a laugh)

guest

i have one of those I'm afraid the customer would kill me if I was to put holes in his roof and the first time it leaked who are they going to call.

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