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i did some searching and couldn't find what i was looking for possibly just not using the right keywords but anyway, i will be running 2 55's for my mix tanks. i plan to simply switch over when one runs out. does anyone think i should run them connected together goin to a t or should i just manually switch my hose from one to the other? also i'm not real sure how to hook my tanks to my pump. and i'm also not real clear on the slotted type filter i'm supposed to use. any help would be appreciated.

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Just use a hose and switch it when it is empty, keep it simple. Quick, cheap and flexible, using elbows and tees are unhealthy for the pump because you start to restrict the flow. confuse

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James, I also use two 55's. I just run a peice of hose from the inlet side of the pump to the tank, and 200' hose and wand from the outlet side of the pump. KISS!!!

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for your slotted filter, go to home depot or lowes, and look in the plumbing and irrigation section. look for "well tip"

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great, thanks for the input guys, one more question, how should i attach the hose to the top of the 55 gal barrel? i'm assuming maybe pvc run through the top so it is sealed? and should i just run a hose into the bottom with the filter at the end or should i use pipe, or does it matter? thanks again.

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I feed from the top also.  The pvc you need for the slotted filter is sometimes called well point as well as well tip.  I got mine at lowes and made several of the filters from the one piece I bought for about $10.00.  I even use one in my 5 gal buckets.

PS - It comes in metal and pvc.  Get the pvc!


-- Edited by al9226 on Monday 9th of August 2010 01:26:22 PM

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ok i got some stuff together,let me know what you guys think. okay i have a 3/4" foot valve at the bottom of my tank and 3/4" pvc running out the top to an elbow which connects to a pvc garden hose end, which connects to a 6' 5/8" garden hose that goes to my 5850. my questions with this are.... will i have enough flow to the input side of the pump?? i would like to seal the top of the barrel some kind of way. i thought about just drilling a hole in the cap on top and running it through, but i don't know if it should be airtight to keep from leaking while driving? also if my tank is airtight will i need to vent it while pumping out of it? anybody running 53 or 55 gal barrels let me know how you do yours or post a pic, i would greatly appreciate it. i have two barrels on the truck and would like to be able to when one runs out just switch something at the top to the next barrel. thanks all, james

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James, don't mount the pump too high.  As you already know, the pump will prime up to 14'.  Always work with gravity.  Many guys pull from the bottom of a tank and don't post the pics. 

You can drill and tap the bung on the drum if you wish.   We recommend that you keep the bung the way it is.  Try not to hard pipe anything if you can.  You will find that many of the tank lids are vented because when it is warm out they like to breathe.

Remove the bung and if you have the slotted filter use a length of 1 1/2" id pvc just a bit taller than the drum to act as a sleeve to keep that filter laying at the bottom of the drum. It is best to go big on the supply line as you have said that you are using 3/4" as supply hose.  (James, Great Job on doing the research and implementing it!!!)  If you find that you are pulling amps just getting luv into the pump, upsize the hose to 1". Use a schedule 80 hose barb to connect the filter to the suction hose. Do not use poly braid tubing. It will collapse.

Drop the hose and filter with the sleeve into the drum through one of the openings.   Being able to remove it to put the filter in a five gallon bucket of water to rinse is very convenient.   If you want to use that method to rinse, make sure your slotted filter is short enough to lay at the bottom of the bucket to maximize all five gallons of rinse water.  This is super easy and cheap! 

Since you are using drums, keep your truck clean, the chems labelled and MSDS's for everything in the vehicle. Clean equipment and vehicles keep DOT from getting nosy!

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Jimmy, This is how I am running mine.
Pic.1, 5/8 pvc coming out of 55gal. Drum connected to hose going to inlet side of pump.

Pic.2, 5/8 hose going to inlet side of pump.

Pic. 3, quick disconnect form outlet side of pump to 200’ 5/8 hose. If your going to use quick disconnects, do not use the green hose clamps. Use metal clamps.

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Bob Jr wrote:

Just use a hose and switch it when it is empty, keep it simple. Quick, cheap and flexible, using elbows and tees are unhealthy for the pump because you start to restrict the flow. confuse




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thank you both for the pics, that's exactly what i needed to help get a better understanding of what to do. almost there, lol, hopefully i'll be posting some cleaning pics soon and i'll try to get some pics up when i get my setup done. thanks again, james

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oh another quick ? why do the tops on the barrels have a "plus sign" type indention, is there a certain fitting that goes in those? mine were pretty tight and fun getting them off lol.

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Yea, it takes a Rieke Drum Wrench


Or a large pair of plyers!

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Two flat head screw drivers will get those off easy keep on to the front of the + the other to the side.
Keep the 2 drivers low and it will twist right off.

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thanks bro the flat heads worked great. thanks to all for the input.

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Just purchased a Delavan 5850 from Lori. She suggested that I use a minimum of 1" inside dia. hose on the intake side of the pump.

-- Edited by Cleaner08 on Wednesday 1st of September 2010 10:47:07 PM

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You want to flood the pump. Make sure you use a larger size intake hose than what the pump is threaded for. 5850 is I think 1/2". I have a 5850 and fed by 1 1/4". I flood that baby...5/8 output..only for the big boys!

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Its like trying to drink through a straw when you're thursty... Hard to do, just think what the pump is doing.

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5/8 output..only for the big boys!

Are you suggesting that being new i should start with 1/2 until we get experience?

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Cleaner08 wrote:

5/8 output..only for the big boys!

Are you suggesting that being new i should start with 1/2 until we get experience?




There has been some discussion threads here on the merits of 5/8 vs 1/2.

Some like the 1/2 for it's lighter weight and are fine with the amount of flow. Others feel the increased flow of a 5/8" hose significantly reduces job time, while also making a 12v electric pump last longer.

People are running their businesses with both. I went with 5/8" but I'm not experienced enough to be religious about it.



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