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Just got off the phone with a local condo association president.  He has 14 buildings, 54 total units and wants a bid.

There is a lot of surface area, but the appear to be walkable and not very high.  If they were a residential home, I would ask for $800-$1000 per building.

So if my math is correct $800 X 14 = 11,200  Do you think that is fair?  Am I crazy asking for 11k or is that NOT enough?  There is alot of work there, that is for sure.

Here is one of them, please let me know if you have ever worked with the assocations and have any tips.

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Brad



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Do $950.00 each, he will get what he pays for, plus you end up being a lucky contractor...

Go for it.....roof cleaning

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Thanks Toy!

I am going for it, trust me!

Pray for me.

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That sounds like a fair price. Just figure out your sq. footage so you know how much chem your spending per building.

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Nice land!! Don't be afraid of calling in another roof cleaner from the RCIA to give you a hand if you need it.

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Have any of you guys ever done any condo cleaning?

Are they getting multiple bids?

Do you know the other contractors?

How long do you expect it to take?

How much chem per building?

How much is delivery charge to deliver enough to cover the entire association?

Do they even have an area to secure 10+ barrels of SH safely where the public cant access it or do you have to only bring what you are going to use?

Do they require WC and if so do you carry it?

Do they have gutters?

These are just a few of the questions that you have to take into consideration when bidding condos or apartments.

Depending on the circumstances it actually sounds kinda low compared to what we would probably bid it for. Its only $207 per unit, which is exactly how you should present it in your bid. You give them a total price, and a "per unit" price. That way when they present it to the homeowners the pill is easy to swallow.

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Iannacchione wrote:

Just got off the phone with a local condo association president.  He has 14 buildings, 54 total units and wants a bid.

There is a lot of surface area, but the appear to be walkable and not very high.  If they were a residential home, I would ask for $800-$1000 per building.

So if my math is correct $800 X 14 = 11,200  Do you think that is fair?  Am I crazy asking for 11k or is that NOT enough?  There is alot of work there, that is for sure.

Here is one of them, please let me know if you have ever worked with the assocations and have any tips.

Thanks,
Brad

Better check your math. 54 does nor divide into 14 equally. You would be better off giving a per unit quote since not all owners will agree to have it done. The ones on the south and east sides of the buildings probably don't have a problem, yet. $200-$250 per unit is easier to swallow than $800-$1000 per building.



 



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Just looked at it again, thats a lot of roof! I think I saw gutters, but a lot of plants as well

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Iannacchione wrote:

Just got off the phone with a local condo association president.  He has 14 buildings, 54 total units and wants a bid.

There is a lot of surface area, but the appear to be walkable and not very high.  If they were a residential home, I would ask for $800-$1000 per building.

So if my math is correct $800 X 14 = 11,200  Do you think that is fair?  Am I crazy asking for 11k or is that NOT enough?  There is alot of work there, that is for sure.

Here is one of them, please let me know if you have ever worked with the assocations and have any tips.

Thanks,
Brad

Better check your math. 54 does nor divide into 14 equally. You would be better off giving a per unit quote since not all owners will agree to have it done. The ones on the south and east sides of the buildings probably don't have a problem, yet. $200-$250 per unit is easier to swallow than $800-$1000 per building.



 




 Every building probably does not have the same number of units....Some may have 4 while other have 5 or something like that.



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If the associtation is really interested in working with you maybe it would be a good Idea to do one roof free to show him your work and this way you would know exactly what your getting into, I sure would hate to over price it and lose it? or under bid it.

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I like to use Bing maps to get a good view on job sites. I have not priced out condo's for cleaning, but most of the houses I clean are that size...confuse... The first house we are shooting today is 7000 sq ft.

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Give me a call. I have done millions in commercial over the years. There is a totally diffrent angle you need to be attacking this pricing from. Id be happy to help you come up with a bidding system that will guide you well through the years.

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Kudos AC! You do TONS of commercial, nice to see the brotherhood

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Bob Jr. from Ugly Shingles........Thank you Nice view from Bing, much appreciated!

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Talked to AC today. What a truly nice guy. Took about 20 minutes to talk to me about this job and gave me a great way to attack it, pricing wise. He also was nice enough to give me some advice on the business side of roof cleaning.

I do appreciate your time AC. Thank you and have a great Tuesday!



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Iannacchione wrote:

Talked to AC today. What a truly nice guy. Took about 20 minutes to talk to me about this job and gave me a great way to attack it, pricing wise. He also was nice enough to give me some advice on the business side of roof cleaning.

I do appreciate your time AC. Thank you and have a great Tuesday!




 anytime Brad! was good to speak with you as well.



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Yeah I got one of those big co-op bids dropped in my lap yesterday too. I'm looking at close to 200 buildings over a 18 month period. It's 1,500 units and I wanna make sure that I don't accidently over/underprice myself. So any general help/guidence/advise would be appreciated. 

If I look at a "unit" in a size wise sense then I'd typically do one for about $250-300. Each building ranges from 4-10 "units"  and when I look at them, that pricing structure sounds about right...though on the 8-10 "unit" buildings... the price seems alittle high. On the other units, the pricing pretty well equals out to my normal pricing structure. On some of the 3-4 "unit" buildings it seems alittle high.

My initial thought process is that I should be looking at about $225-250/"unit" When your talking that many units... $25 makes for a good swing in price. So I wanna make sure I don't overbid it... but I have to make sure I bid it right...as it means buying another whole new rig setup and hiring an additional crew. Means more insurance, maintenance and payroll issues.

This co-op is pretty strict about EVERYTHING thats done. There are inspectors there alomost everyday watching contractors do work and I expect that I'll have some initial hurdles with dealing with them and our chemicals and process. All these buildings are 2 story... alot are not walkable without saftey equipment.

When bidding for this many units... should I be sitting slightly lower in pricing? or does this sound about right? Basically I think my pricing looks good. It's just one heck of a jump to do without at least looking for feedback.

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first off take the time to measure the sq ft of each building. Once you do that then figure up a price based on sq footage. then figure how much chems for the job and so on and so on.

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But before you do any of that, go back in and finish filling out your profile so we know who you are. That is one of the rules of this forum. The info you have in there is vague at best.
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You guys must think, How much money do I want for a days work. Then how many buildings can you do in a day then get your #s.
I can do 3 buildings at 500. a day=1,500. a day.
If you have 21 Buildings it will take 7 days.
7 Days at 1,500=10,500. Is that good money for 7days?
Stop over thinking it!!!!!!!!!!
They will look for a guy that can do it right but most times go with price.
Staying at 1 job will lower your cost and keep you moving.
You can not charge as much as you do for residential work.

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