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ron,
you are one very confusing person. No one gives a chit about what you have to say involving this matter. There is definetly things that should be shared publicy and thing that should stay private. This in one of those private between two party only topics.

I personally think you are out of line and should learn to pick and choose your battles and learn where to battle if you must.

that is my 2 cents. take it or leave it

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It's like my dad used to say: Once a guy starts showing his ass he's going to keep showing it until he's showed it to everyone in the room.




I have actually been very nice person, Lori at one point thanked me for understanding why she could not give the unit away!

We actually where beyond her givng the unit away.

She has been very greatful up till the other day.

I have worked magic to accomidate PWP.

I know Lori will eventually come Clean and tell you about this. I believe shes a good person and is affraid that it will hurt her to tell the truth.

Reguardless I feel bad for her, I wish she would just accept the way it is. And move forward so all RCIA, NCE & PWP can prosper from all of this instead of being Damaged.

If you all Keep Responding I will keep answering.

Maybe I'll make a Video!!!!



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just stop it .stop it. your stooping down to my level now. lol

I'm trying to concentrate here ok.

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ron,
you are one very confusing person. No one gives a chit about what you have to say involving this matter. There is definetly things that should be shared publicy and thing that should stay private. This in one of those private between two party only topics.

I personally think you are out of line and should learn to pick and choose your battles and learn where to battle if you must.

that is my 2 cents. take it or leave it




 No Battle,


I have been a member here since the start. I have been doing this 25 years, I own a events Biz that handling the event for RCIA.

This event is being damaged by its own members.

You guys need to start realizing this is your problem.

Maybe someone should ask Lori to come to the event. We all want her there, I think she feels embarrased more than affraid.

I personally do not appreciate comments made like that. FYI


So instead of calling me and Azz or confusing.

Please Talk with Lori and invite her to come with you!!!



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miked wrote:

ron,
you are one very confusing person. No one gives a chit about what you have to say involving this matter. There is definetly things that should be shared publicy and thing that should stay private. This in one of those private between two party only topics.

I personally think you are out of line and should learn to pick and choose your battles and learn where to battle if you must.

that is my 2 cents. take it or leave it




No Battle,


I have been a member here since the start. I have been doing this 25 years, I own a events Biz that handling the event for RCIA.

This event is being damaged by its own members.

You guys need to start realizing this is your problem.

Maybe someone should ask Lori to come to the event. We all want her there, I think she feels embarrased more than affraid.

I personally do not appreciate comments made like that. FYI


So instead of calling me and Azz or confusing.

Please Talk with Lori and invite her to come with you!!!

 




I think the RCIA should cut off all ties with your organization. Keep posting. Let the whole world see. It is unfortunate your first thread was deleted.

 

 

 

 



-- Edited by Midtown on Sunday 27th of June 2010 01:55:04 PM

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miked wrote:

ron,
you are one very confusing person. No one gives a chit about what you have to say involving this matter. There is definetly things that should be shared publicy and thing that should stay private. This in one of those private between two party only topics.

I personally think you are out of line and should learn to pick and choose your battles and learn where to battle if you must.

that is my 2 cents. take it or leave it




No Battle,


I have been a member here since the start. I have been doing this 25 years, I own a events Biz that handling the event for RCIA.

This event is being damaged by its own members.

You guys need to start realizing this is your problem.

Maybe someone should ask Lori to come to the event. We all want her there, I think she feels embarrased more than affraid.

I personally do not appreciate comments made like that. FYI


So instead of calling me and Azz or confusing.

Please Talk with Lori and invite her to come with you!!!

 




I think the RCIA should cut off all ties with your organization. Keep posting. Let the whole world see. It is unfortunate your first thread was deleted.

 

 

 

 



-- Edited by Midtown on Sunday 27th of June 2010 01:55:04 PM



I think you have been very Mis-informed

 
Sorry you feel that Way, I believe the truth always prevails.

If RCIA wants to stop promotions thats there Choice.



-- Edited by Ron Musgraves on Sunday 27th of June 2010 02:06:23 PM

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Doug, I left you my number 4805225227

Love to talk!!

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I think alot of you guys need to

1. find out who is really at fault here instead of jumping to conclusions, and

2.Take off your "I love Lori and anyone who says anything other than I love lori and PWP can go to hell" glasses and see that it IS an issue and SHOULD be brought out in public.

I have issues with the way Ron handles things too and in the last thread I spoke out against it as well so dont think this is me going after Lori. My question is, Where IS Lori in all of this?

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Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX wrote:

I think alot of you guys need to

1. find out who is really at fault here instead of jumping to conclusions, and

2.Take off your "I love Lori and anyone who says anything other than I love lori and PWP can go to hell" glasses and see that it IS an issue and SHOULD be brought out in public.

I have issues with the way Ron handles things too and in the last thread I spoke out against it as well so dont think this is me going after Lori. My question is, Where IS Lori in all of this?



well Scott I will wait to see if your suggestions works?

I know a month ago Lori had guys putting on womens bikin's and cross dressing for a free gallon on fragrance. lol.

 



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Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX wrote:

I think alot of you guys need to

1. find out who is really at fault here instead of jumping to conclusions, and

2.Take off your "I love Lori and anyone who says anything other than I love lori and PWP can go to hell" glasses and see that it IS an issue and SHOULD be brought out in public.

I have issues with the way Ron handles things too and in the last thread I spoke out against it as well so dont think this is me going after Lori. My question is, Where IS Lori in all of this?



well Scott I will wait to see if your suggestions works?

I know a month ago Lori had guys putting on womens bikin's and cross dressing for a free gallon on fragrance. lol. So yes all the guys do love her. Me myself I'm not going to take any sidesconfuse

 




 



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Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX wrote:

I think alot of you guys need to

1. find out who is really at fault here instead of jumping to conclusions, and

2.Take off your "I love Lori and anyone who says anything other than I love lori and PWP can go to hell" glasses and see that it IS an issue and SHOULD be brought out in public.

I have issues with the way Ron handles things too and in the last thread I spoke out against it as well so dont think this is me going after Lori. My question is, Where IS Lori in all of this?



well Scott I will wait to see if your suggestions works?

I know a month ago Lori had guys putting on womens bikin's and cross dressing, at her command, for a free gallon on fragrance. lol. So yes all the guys do love her. there is just something special about her. Me myself I'm not going to take any sidesconfuse

 




 




 



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I have nothing to Hide, mistakes where made!!!

Its that simple, I would love to hear the Lori when she told me Rex wouldnt allow the skid given away Ron said its ok Lori.


I have done everything as to even offer to pay for Half the unit myself.

The truth is simple, Lori acted outside the scope of what she was allowed.

I'm ok with that, I still want her to come to the event Free Despite the give-away being blundered.

I made a mistake by not going directly to Rex, I dont Blame PWP either. I only blame myself, I should have had Rex Sign off on the deal. That was my mistake, I would have learned Six months ago he was not going to do it when we started proming PWP.

I know have a huge problem, I have a story in NCE thats not happening.

If Lori came to the event all the guys could still meet her, we all just want this whole thing to go away.

I want nothing but the truth to come forward.

I'm sorry I ever tried to make this work, I will never make this mistake again.

I apoligize to RCIA and all people involved with the event, it looks BAD!!!!!!!!

I assure all theres a NEW Hot Water Unit thats Larger and Better. Like all the other 10 Units we have given Away all that expected this it will happen.


This is a nightmare for Me !!!!

I undertsand how Lori is Feeling, I'm in the same Boat.

This could have all been resolved but behind the Scenes I started getting Phone calls about the PWP was not going or had ever planned on gving the unit away. The people said REX said he never authorized this. Of course this is very damaging to my reputation as well.

I assume REX never really Knew!!!

I never wanted Lori Selling items on Ebay to pay for PWP skid, when I heard that I asked her several times Lori are you sure you want to follow through? She told us dont worry the unit will be there. She Told around three or four people the same thing.

I have actaully tried keeping this out of the public for awhile to come with some sort of a win win for all.

Then as or last week I shifted to REX and only deal with him. After 6 months I find out a whole other story.

The bottom line I'm not upset at anyone, just want the best thing for my Co and Lori.

I said it over and over, I liked Lori. I was only trying to help this because it would have helped her even become more popular with good press. I was increasing her sales through media promo, now money thats was spent and gone from my pocket.

Thats the truth, I have bent over Backwards to make PWP & Lori a part of this and save Face.

Lori, I dont expect you to apoligize but you certainly do owe the truth to all I have only treid to help you.

It really hurts my feelings your trying to paint me as a bad person!!



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We are still willing to accomidate Lori , PWP or Rex in anyway reasonable.





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Ron,
As asked before......

Post this crap in the "In the shade" section so that public eyes do not see it......or is that what you are seeking?

After all of this, I speaking for myself may very well pull out of this convention.

It is showing me just how desperate people can be.....and I am not naming names!

Let me ask you a question....IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM

Are you, will you, or have you, been financially benefited from posting this in the public forum?

Are you, will you, or have you been financially benefited from another roof cleaning supplier?

Is it in your best interest or any other persons benefit to bash someone in a public forum?

I choose my supplier due to how I am treated, cost, and warranty.....in that order....I will pay more to a person who make me feel like #1 and makes others feel the same way....it shows they care..

You have an issue with Lori's business practices...THEN G*% Da%@ it, take it to Lori privately.

You are driving people away from another supplier and I am ready to go to the "OTHER" roof cleaning forum. Is this what you want?

"Yes?" Good Job
"NO?" Then stop!

I find it funny that you called me about the reservation with the convention, then proceeded to tell me that Lori is scared and is being pushed out by other vendors.....tell me I'm lying...

You also tell me how many of these you conventions you hold, how many skid units you give away...all the up side stuff...but you get on here and won't let the chit go..

Enough is enough...

Lets all grow up



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Ron,
As asked before......

Post this crap in the "In the shade" section so that public eyes do not see it......or is that what you are seeking?

After all of this, I speaking for myself may very well pull out of this convention.

It is showing me just how desperate people can be.....and I am not naming names!

Let me ask you a question....IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM

Are you, will you, or have you, been financially benefited from posting this in the public forum?

Are you, will you, or have you been financially benefited from another roof cleaning supplier?

Is it in your best interest or any other persons benefit to bash someone in a public forum?

I choose my supplier due to how I am treated, cost, and warranty.....in that order....I will pay more to a person who make me feel like #1 and makes others feel the same way....it shows they care..

You have an issue with Lori's business practices...THEN G*% Da%@ it, take it to Lori privately.

You are driving people away from another supplier and I am ready to go to the "OTHER" roof cleaning forum. Is this what you want?

"Yes?" Good Job
"NO?" Then stop!

I find it funny that you called me about the reservation with the convention, then proceeded to tell me that Lori is scared and is being pushed out by other vendors.....tell me I'm lying...

You also tell me how many of these you conventions you hold, how many skid units you give away...all the up side stuff...but you get on here and won't let the chit go..

Enough is enough...

Lets all grow up




 Can you hear me, No I hate this being in Public!!!!


The truth is the truth.


Do we cover up poor business practices here on RCIA.



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Ron,
As asked before......

Post this crap in the "In the shade" section so that public eyes do not see it......or is that what you are seeking?

After all of this, I speaking for myself may very well pull out of this convention.

It is showing me just how desperate people can be.....and I am not naming names!

Let me ask you a question....IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM

Are you, will you, or have you, been financially benefited from posting this in the public forum?

Are you, will you, or have you been financially benefited from another roof cleaning supplier?

Is it in your best interest or any other persons benefit to bash someone in a public forum?

I choose my supplier due to how I am treated, cost, and warranty.....in that order....I will pay more to a person who make me feel like #1 and makes others feel the same way....it shows they care..

You have an issue with Lori's business practices...THEN G*% Da%@ it, take it to Lori privately.

You are driving people away from another supplier and I am ready to go to the "OTHER" roof cleaning forum. Is this what you want?

"Yes?" Good Job
"NO?" Then stop!

I find it funny that you called me about the reservation with the convention, then proceeded to tell me that Lori is scared and is being pushed out by other vendors.....tell me I'm lying...

You also tell me how many of these you conventions you hold, how many skid units you give away...all the up side stuff...but you get on here and won't let the chit go..

Enough is enough...

Lets all grow up




 Can you hear me, No I hate this being in Public!!!!


The truth is the truth.


Do we cover up poor business practices here on RCIA.



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Let me ask you a question....IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM

Are you, will you, or have you, been financially benefited from posting this in the public forum?

Are you, will you, or have you been financially benefited from another roof cleaning supplier?

Is it in your best interest or any other persons benefit to bash someone in a public forum?

 You are driving people away from another supplier and I am ready to go to the "OTHER" roof cleaning forum. Is this what you want?

I wonder if OUR ranks are dropping?



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I have nothing to Hide, mistakes where made!!!

Its that simple, I would love to hear the Lori when she told me Rex wouldnt allow the skid given away Ron said its ok Lori.


I have done everything as to even offer to pay for Half the unit myself.

The truth is simple, Lori acted outside the scope of what she was allowed.

I'm ok with that, I still want her to come to the event Free Despite the give-away being blundered.

I made a mistake by not going directly to Rex, I dont Blame PWP either. I only blame myself, I should have had Rex Sign off on the deal. That was my mistake, I would have learned Six months ago he was not going to do it when we started proming PWP.

I know have a huge problem, I have a story in NCE thats not happening.

If Lori came to the event all the guys could still meet her, we all just want this whole thing to go away.

I want nothing but the truth to come forward.

I'm sorry I ever tried to make this work, I will never make this mistake again.

I apoligize to RCIA and all people involved with the event, it looks BAD!!!!!!!!

I assure all theres a NEW Hot Water Unit thats Larger and Better. Like all the other 10 Units we have given Away all that expected this it will happen.


This is a nightmare for Me !!!!

I undertsand how Lori is Feeling, I'm in the same Boat.

This could have all been resolved but behind the Scenes I started getting Phone calls about the PWP was not going or had ever planned on gving the unit away. The people said REX said he never authorized this. Of course this is very damaging to my reputation as well.

I assume REX never really Knew!!!

I never wanted Lori Selling items on Ebay to pay for PWP skid, when I heard that I asked her several times Lori are you sure you want to follow through? She told us dont worry the unit will be there. She Told around three or four people the same thing.

I have actaully tried keeping this out of the public for awhile to come with some sort of a win win for all.

Then as or last week I shifted to REX and only deal with him. After 6 months I find out a whole other story.

The bottom line I'm not upset at anyone, just want the best thing for my Co and Lori.

I said it over and over, I liked Lori. I was only trying to help this because it would have helped her even become more popular with good press. I was increasing her sales through media promo, now money thats was spent and gone from my pocket.

Thats the truth, I have bent over Backwards to make PWP & Lori a part of this and save Face.

Lori, I dont expect you to apoligize but you certainly do owe the truth to all I have only treid to help you.

It really hurts my feelings your trying to paint me as a bad person!!



Ron,

Do you even realize that this is a roof cleaning forum and that while PWI or PWNA or some other organization may drool at a hot water skid that we don't use them to clean roofs?

The truth you say... As I see it the truth is this:
Your frustrated with a situation with a vendor and your venting here at RCIA in public. STOP!
Grow up and be professional. Swallow your pride and just stop talking.
You're only making yourself and the expo look bad.
Seriously, just stop.

The vendor in question doesn't owe RCIA anything in my opinion except quality service from her company for the items we order from her.
I don't give a rats azz about the skid, or why PWP isn't giving one away.

To be perfectly honest, I don't care about anything more than meeting fellow RCIA members and hearing the speakers. I'm not going to buy stuff and I'm not going to try to win something I wouldn't use anyway.

I offered my help to PWP to help host a PWP meeting. If they want to do that, great.
It doesn't need to be connected to you in any way.
They can have it whenever they want.

You are right about being wrong however.
It is your mistake and your problem and should be handled privately.
Anyone who has ever booked a promoter knows to get everything in writing ahead of the actual promotions and to have whatever is being given away in their possession before announcing it.

Your reputation continues to be diminished by your posting.
Just stop. Put your effort into making the expo the best it could be and let your work speak for itself.

We aren't children who need you to point out that a vendor we use and trust made a mistake. We are much smarter than you give us credit for. Its not that we don't see the issue. Its that we don't care.

Your ranting won't change that.

And to those who think I'm just a PWP fanboy...
This has nothing to do with PWP it has everything to do with whether I can trust Ron.

At the moment that's undecided. 

 



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Hey Ron have you ever been to the Tampa zoo that is 5 miles away from the convention?

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ron,
im sorry you are a teader totter. i never said you where an azz i just said that we as members do not want to hear this little kid bickering on a topic that does not affect my business.

If you want and answer from lori then just ask her privately and stop posting about this. Lori dosen't owe us an answer so no one should really care.

I also choose my vendors on the way im treated and price and how qwuick i get it delivered. so this topic will not sway me either way.

Peace!!!!!!!!!!

somebody please delete this nonesense of a thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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