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For those who question the Delevan Fatboy's ability

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Scott, you have an agenda here,..and you are so mad that others are opting for the better way. I never seen hardly anyone say they have hatred for Delavans. Quit whining around about others choosing an air system over a 12v. People just choose to move up and you look at it as a blow to your ego.

You also said just let everyone choose,....is that why this post seems like some sort of twisted retaliation you feel you need to express. Get over the pumps and hoses arguments that you always seem to try and stir up.

Jeff

Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX · Guest

Jeff, The point of this post is to counter the claims that delevans cant hold up. What have I whined about, and how is it a blow to my ego? I dont sell these things. I just use them.

You are right, I do have an agenda. It is to dispel the lies and false claims and to help new guys.

When a discussion over pumps and hose size comes up, me playing devils advocate is not "Stirring things up". Why dont you go back to all of the threads started by Dave and others about how wonderful the All Flos are? Because you have an agenda against me for some reason, thats why. Please find the last thread I started stirring things up...

Please, Jeff, do us both a favor and do not post in my threads.

Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 · guest

Whoa were is all this comming from?? The Delevan not holding up is different than it not performing. The Delevan does work but is not made of A rated materials and therefore will not last as long under heavy usage, especially without rinsing. Lies and False claims?? This entire forum exists for that exact reason, to stop lies and false claims. I don't think anyone has lied about their pump experiences. Many guys who used Delevan's and shureflo's for 10 years spoke about them at the start of this forum. Many of them changed to air and like it. AC runs the largest cleaning business I have ever seen and uses shurflo's so yeah they can work. He still has to replace them a lot. But we are not lying, the SH compatibility charts and the long term user experiences are the proof. But yes I noticed someone right after this post actually said they hate them, but I don't think there is a pump conspiracy or hidden pump agendas, lol. PSSt hey guy... check out my black market pump lol. I think I have an old lowes pump if someone wants it they can have it. That's my secret agenda ....Please take my extra junk!! I'll throw in a timing light and 10 plastic barrels lol.

Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 · guest

PS I know for sure that Jeff has no agenda against anyone. He just wants to chat about roof cleaning on his buddy's forum. It seems like every few months someone thinks we are all out to get ya instead of just talking about roof cleaning to promote the industry. That's why I am here. If I wanted to sell pumps I would change my name to a distributor and sell you pumps and then you would buy them. That's the easiest way to do it. Pretending to clean roofs to sell pumps is not a good way to sell pumps so I really doubt that's whats going on.

Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 · guest

Actually come to think of it maybe that whole area 57 thing was a conspiracy for aliens to get us to buy the wrong pumps ??

911?? Pump terrorists!!

Earthquakes in Chile?? Media conspiracy to trick us into buying all-Flos!!

Sorry Scott. I am just trying to throw some laughs in here. :)

Gay Marriage?? Distraction to keep you from thinking about pumps!!

-- Edited by Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 on Sunday 25th of April 2010 06:58:26 PM

Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX · Guest

Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 wrote:

Actually come to think of it maybe that whole area 57 thing was a conspiracy for aliens to get us to buy the wrong pumps ??

911?? Pump terrorists!!

Earthquakes in Chile?? Media conspiracy to trick us into buying all-Flos!!

Sorry Scott. I am just trying to throw some laughs in here. :)

Gay Marriage?? Distraction to keep you from thinking about pumps!!

-- Edited by Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 on Sunday 25th of April 2010 06:58:26 PM

Bill, this is where Jeff gets it wrong. He thinks I am out to promote Delevans, and make everyone think other pumps suck. When there are 100 threads out there promoting All flos, and he does not attack the authors, and then I have 1 showing that Fatboys can hold up AND perform, I get castrated.

The fact is, and the whole point of this thread, is that they will Hold up and Perform. We've done hundreds of thousands of square feet with this pump, and it hold up fine.
I guess if I would have Titled this thread "Why I use the Delevan Fatboy, and why you should TOO" it would have gotten a warm response from Jeff.

Apr 25, 2010

I have been cleaning roofs for a couple of years now. I have cleaned over two hundred roofs with my delvan 5880 and the Fatboy. The fatboy is very powerful,so powerful most times I use the 5880.I have the air system as well,I like it but hardly use it. I have all three with me { just in case } but I have to say I use the 5880 90% of the time and the fatboy the other 10%. I would never be on the road without at least one delvan,I just feel secure with them.The bottom line I would encourage all newbies to start with a delvan because of the low start up cost.Then grow your business in the direction you want it to go.

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Scott as for the Delavan pumps, 5800 and fatboys, I used the 5800 for about a 1 1/2 and for the most part it did fine, then I went with the fatboy using 200 ft of 5/8 hose and it was powerful but it just last one month and that was with rinsing out of every use. I personally switch to the yamada air pump and have been using the same one ever since. The fatboy had good distance and power like the yamada, once I went to 200 ft of 3/4 hose I would say I got 10 maybe 15 ft more of distance but I usually do not need it. I wouldn't say peeps are so much bashing just sharing there experiences with what they use, people ask and you share with them what has worked for you and what hasn't or your experience with it. Well good luck all and Scott I just try to share when someone ask, have a good season.

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Roof Cleaning of Virginia Beach, VA 757-650-7456. wrote:

Scott as for the Delavan pumps, 5800 and fatboys, I used the 5800 for about a 1 1/2 and for the most part it did fine, then I went with the fatboy using 200 ft of 5/8 hose and it was powerful but it just last one month and that was with rinsing out of every use. I personally switch to the yamada air pump and have been using the same one ever since. The fatboy had good distance and power like the yamada, once I went to 200 ft of 3/4 hose I would say I got 10 maybe 15 ft more of distance but I usually do not need it. I wouldn't say peeps are so much bashing just sharing there experiences with what they use, people ask and you share with them what has worked for you and what hasn't or your experience with it. Well good luck all and Scott I just try to share when someone ask, have a good season.

Thanks for your input. This was not started to incite an arguement. Simply informational, that the fatboy can handle anything you throw at it from my experience of throwing ALOT at it. I think you got a lemon, and delevan would probably replace it for free.

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They may I think the relay switch just crapped out on it is all. I can get one np there, I just have an air set up now and have no desire to switch back, by the way nice pictures there, some big jobs you had.

Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX · Guest

The relay is the one fatal flaw of the Fatboy. The easy fix is to replace it right away with a starter relay from a car. They hold up alot better, but its always good to have an extra fr a quick fix.

Thanks.

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Yea I read about that but it was to late already had the air pump but i still have the fatboy in my ware house on the shelf.

Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 · Apr 25, 2010

Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX wrote:

The relay is the one fatal flaw of the Fatboy. The easy fix is to replace it right away with a starter relay from a car.

Hey Scott, would you mind elaborating on how you managed to replace the Fatboy relay switch with a car stater relay.

I am still on the fence trying to decide whether I should go all-pro or fatboy route. I plan on deciding after this season slows down. I hope you are as busy as I have been.

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I use the 5850 and every problem I have had is because of a hose leak somewhere or a faulty toggle switch or loose wiring. I have never had a pump fail unless it was for another reason besides the pump.

I understad that the air system may be a lot easier to use and more reliable. But, starting out it won't hurt at all to use a 12 v.

Scotts just trying to show that roofs can be cleaned with the 12 v pumps successfully. He's not saying air pumps suck, just that you don't have to have an air pump to be successful in this business.

In the future I'm gonna get an air pump because yes they are less trouble. But, I see no need for one right now. My 5850 does just fine.

Come on guys....Let's keep these posts professional. You never know who could be reading them.

Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX · Guest

Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 wrote:

Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX wrote:

The relay is the one fatal flaw of the Fatboy. The easy fix is to replace it right away with a starter relay from a car.

Hey Scott, would you mind elaborating on how you managed to replace the Fatboy relay switch with a car stater relay.

I am still on the fence trying to decide whether I should go all-pro or fatboy route. I plan on deciding after this season slows down. I hope you are as busy as I have been.

Marcus, which ever pump you go with will be good. If you do go with the Fatboy, Let me know and Ill make sure its hooked up and wired properly. There are some things we have done that make it more hassle free.

Roof Cleaning Corpus Christi TX · Guest

This is a great thread and shows that there are a lot of ways to apply your chemicals.

Scott has done some very large roofs to say the least and the Fatboy is his pump of choice and that is great that it is lasting him that long. He even came down here last year and did a roof for me that I could not get to, Thanks again Scott.

I have used Flojet, ShurFlo and Delavan pumps for years now ranging from roof cleaning to chemical transferring to spot spraying and I have used both the 110 volt and 12 volt systems.

I have used the first Roller Pump Bandit that Bob at PressureTek made and the first pump just gave out a few weeks ago so I got 2.5 years out of it which is not bad at all for a roller pump, I put the spare onto the frame and am looking for something to replace it when it goes out.

There are many options out there and this is a good thread showing what can be done with the 12 volt pumps.

Thanks Scott.

gutterdog · Apr 26, 2010

I just moved up to 12 volts, lol! Roofs werent my thing, now they are. did a few over the years. Did more last year than I did the years before. I am going to beat last years numbers soon this year. Roof washings. I've decided to come up the hard way. Experience. I got the 7800 delavan. Way faster than pump up. From that we go a fatboy. From that we go air. With pump ups the cider goes exactly where you want it. No run off. No run off! No waste, no baggin downspouts. Chit job I did myself Sunday with the 2gpm. Almost flawless! That is with SH coming out the Downspouts. I was the roof and ground guy! I just used common sense. I didnt go and flood the roof with chems. Gallons and gallons of pure cider coming out the DS. Anyone can spray a roof like that.

I'm not saying anything about anyones way of doing things. Just how My way is. How I'm going to get faster. I'm booked for a week n a half and have more estimates to book further. Jobs I cant complete in the time frame customer wants, I give to a friend.

I dont want to bag DS. I think that sends a bad message to homeowner, Whats this guy puttin on my roof! Rooofs are still a hard sell round here. Its gettin easier when its a WOM!

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I know one thing I have never heard anyone complaining about their All-flo pump I been around here for 9 months and I never heard of one complaint.

on the other hand I must see at least one post per day about someone complaining about their Delevan pump, what ever you call them.

I would flip out if I was up on a roof or ladder and my pump would act up time after time.

Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX · Guest

Walk wrote:

I know one thing I have never heard anyone complaining about their All-flo pump I been around here for 9 months and I never heard of one complaint.

on the other hand I must see at least one post per day about someone complaining about their Delevan pump, what ever you call them.
I would flip out if I was up on a roof or ladder and my pump would act up time after time.

And that is a very good point. The problems most people have are usually user error, or something that can be easily fixed, or prevented altogether. My pump never acts up, or I would flip out too.

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