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Hey guys last week I saw a lawn spraying company with a gas powered pump mounted on his tank and I got to thinking why we should use an All-Flo air powered pump. What are the advantages/disadvantages to using a particular style pump. Thanks.

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95% of all gas powered engines with pumps on them don't last. You can try anything from a John Blue to a Zeta to a Comet pump. All have internal parts that will eventually break down due to the corrosiveness of the sh. Ask me how I know! The Air Flow pump system will not.

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95% of all gas powered engines with pumps on them don't last. You can try anything from a John Blue to a Zeta to a Comet pump. All have internal parts that will eventually break down due to the corrosiveness of the sh. Ask me how I know! The Air Flow pump system will not.



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95% of all gas powered engines with pumps on them don't last. You can try anything from a John Blue to a Zeta to a Comet pump. All have internal parts that will eventually break down due to the corrosiveness of the sh. Ask me how I know! The Air Flow pump system will not.



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Thanks guys I figured there was a logical answer somewhere. What kind of life can I expect out of an All-Flo? If I was to rinse it after each day? I know tough question because you don't know how many roof I do. Would it las for 500 roofs? 750?

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Thanks guys I figured there was a logical answer somewhere. What kind of life can I expect out of an All-Flo? If I was to rinse it after each day? I know tough question because you don't know how many roof I do. Would it las for 500 roofs? 750?



Jeff it's my understanding that the All-Flo can be rebuilt. I think I will buy another All-Flo just in case, for back up?

 



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It also comes with a 5yrs warranty. Whats the warranty on the 12volts and gas powered pumps? Hmmm!  no

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It also comes with a 5yrs warranty. Whats the warranty on the 12volts and gas powered pumps? Hmmm!  no

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Does it really I didn't know that. what is the warranty?

 



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Hey Larry, is that 1/2" hose you're using with the All-Flo? I am probably going to try air again with the All-Flo, and I will want to use the 1/2" Kuri-Tec that Lori is selling. Just wondering how the 1/2" is working out for you?

I was running the Yamada 1/2" a couple years ago and couldn't deal with the stalling issue.


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Yes Jeff. I'm using 250ft of 1/2 in on the Pump. I havent had any issues with it. I have heard about the Yamada's stalling and and needing to be reset. Sounds like a pain to me. 1/2 in is a lot easier to deal with especially on big 2 and three story Roof Cleanings.

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Hi Larry.

I'm close to being able to order an All-Flo from Lori. My current hose reel will not hold 200' of 5/8" hose and was figuring I would have to get a new reel. It's good to know the All-Flo will perform with the 1/2" hose. This will allow me to keep my current hose reel.

Will the All-Flo shoot farther with the 1/2" hose than my 5 gpm Delavan using 5/8" hose?

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It will depend on what size tips your using. Most all of the Roof Cleanings we do we walk the Roofs so distance is not too much of a concern with us. on a few occasions we have had to use a 0030 or a 0020 tip to shoot the outside edging of Tiles and it does it with no problems. I've tested it with just water and have gotten at least 40-45ft using a 0040 tip. Actually I did it at Lori's while she was right there and she was pretty impressed at how far it was shooting.

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Thanks Larry.

I walk most of my roofs as well but there are times I want to shoot a steep one from the gutter line. There were a couple of times when the Delavan would not get all the way to the top and I had to figure out a safe way to get there.

I know there are a couple of better reasons to go with the air pump over the 12 volt than just shooting distance. I can't wait until I get set up with the All-Flo.

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It will depend on what size tips your using. Most all of the Roof Cleanings we do we walk the Roofs so distance is not too much of a concern with us. on a few occasions we have had to use a 0030 or a 0020 tip to shoot the outside edging of Tiles and it does it with no problems. I've tested it with just water and have gotten at least 40-45ft using a 0040 tip. Actually I did it at Lori's while she was right there and she was pretty impressed at how far it was shooting.



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Thanks Larry, I just ordered the All-Flo and 200' of 1/2" hose. I hope the stalling issue is non-existent. How many PSI are you running? Anyone?

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Hi Larry.

I'm close to being able to order an All-Flo from Lori. My current hose reel will not hold 200' of 5/8" hose and was figuring I would have to get a new reel. It's good to know the All-Flo will perform with the 1/2" hose. This will allow me to keep my current hose reel.

Will the All-Flo shoot farther with the 1/2" hose than my 5 gpm Delavan using 5/8" hose?

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It will work with 1/2 inch hose, just not as good as with 5/8.

 



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95% of all gas powered engines with pumps on them don't last. You can try anything from a John Blue to a Zeta to a Comet pump. All have internal parts that will eventually break down due to the corrosiveness of the sh. Ask me how I know! The Air Flow pump system will not.



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EACH A L L - F L O P U M P I S B ACK E D BY A
5 -YEAR WARRANT Y
A N D T E ST E D B E F O R E S H I P M E N T.
Your All-Flo Double Diaphragm Pump is warranted to the original user against defects in workmanship or materials under normal use (rental use
excluded) for five years after purchase date. Any pump which is determined to be defective in material and workmanship
and returned to All-Flo Pump Co., shipping costs prepaid, will be repaired or replaced at All-Flo’s option.
This warranty does not cover failure of parts or components due to normal wear or damage or failure which in the
judgment of All-Flo arises from misuse, abrasion, corrosion, negligence, accidental damage, faulty installation or
tampering. If All-Flo inspection discloses no defect in material or workmanship, repair or replacement and return
will be made at customary charges.
All-Flo has made a diligent effort to accurately illustrate and describe its product in this literature. However, such
illustrations and descriptions are not a warranty. THE ABOVE EXPRESS WARRANTY IS IN LIEU OF AND EXCLUDES
ALL OTHER WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
Purchaser shall give written notice of any claim to All-Flo within ten days after discovery of any alleged defect. ALL-FLO SHALL NOT BE
LIABLE FOR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, LOSSES, DELAYS, LABOR COSTS OR ANY OTHER EXPENSE DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY ARISING
FROM USE OF THE PUMP, ITS LIABILITY BEING EXPRESSLY LIMITED TO THE REPLACEMENT OR REPAIR OF ANY DEFECTIVE PUMP OR
AN ALLOWANCE OF CREDIT THEREFORE. THE REMEDY AND RECOVERY OF THE PURCHASER ON ANY CLAIM AGAINST ALL-FLO,
WHETHER BASED ON CONTRACT, THIS WARRANTY OR ANY ALLEGED NEGLIGENCE SHALL BE AS STATED AND LIMITED HEREIN AND
SHALL BE EXCLUSIVE.
5 YEAR
WARRANTY
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Wow only 1/2 hose! Id love to get away with that.

Im running a 1/2 yamada. Was using 100' 3/4 hose and would add an extra 100' as needed. When I rebuilt my rig I decided to try 5/8.... So I put one 200 foot pc of it on a reel. Talk about a loss of flow and distance. When I get a chance im cutting that hose into two pieces and if that doesnt satisfy me im throwing it in the barn and buying more 3/4. Im not fond of the kuri tech pvc hose compared to the rubber hose either... It is very pretty though.

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Thanks Larry, I just ordered the All-Flo and 200' of 1/2" hose. I hope the stalling issue is non-existent. How many PSI are you running? Anyone?

Jeff



Jeff, I have mine set at 100psi. I've got a separate regulator between the compressor and the pump to protect the pump against spiking over 100psi and damaging the diaphragm. It works great and I never have to babysit the pump.

 



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