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Hi Everyone, first post here, great forum!:

I mixed a fresh batch of apple cider using fresh sh from my local shop and used hot water to mix up the tsp.  I applied the mix on asphalt shingles at around 50F air temp.  While the lichens turned grey immediately, the dark streaks seem to increase on the front of the house (which is shaded).  The roof in the rear had the expected results (in the sun).  Was the roof in front too cool for the cider to work or maybe the sh was weak?  Maybe it just looks worse because the solution didn't evaporate due to the temps and shade.  Do I need to increase my sh ratio in cooler weather?  I'm going to wait 1 week and see how the roof looks.  Any thoughts are appreciated!

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You  have  any pics ,  and how  thick  was the algae on  front of roof ?


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Don't panic brother.this happen on my first roof. sounds like your batch is to Weak.strengthen it up and blast it again.

hmm,what was you batch ratio?


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I used 15 gal of sh 12.5% (supposedly), 25 gal of hot water, 5 lbs tsp, 64oz of iso alcohol, 32 oz of dawn.  Last fall I did a roof with the same same recipe and also added borax and it was very good at cleaning.  I'm thinking due to the cooler temps and weaker sh maybe I need to increase to 20 gal or sh?  Thanks!

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Here is the before picture, don't think I took an after unfortunately.  The lichens died right away.

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OK found an after photo, seems the roof is darker over the garage now.  Do you think that after a few days the dark areas will lighten after drying?  This side of the house was in constant shade yesterday.

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I can't see your pics bro. May be my phone.

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It's difficult to tell anything from the before & after pictures. The problem is that they are of two different distances and angles. Not good for comparision. Take an after picture of the garage roof at the same distance and angle.

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I can't see your pics bro. May be my phone.




I had to rename it to add the extension.

 

Sidesaddle: That's not coming off most likely. You need to respray. I think your SH was old or the roof was real bad.

 

 



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     Very Important: Did you rinse this roof?

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The mix should have worked without a problem.From the before and after picture it seems the black algae was not affected at all. The photos show that the roof was done in the shade.There is a chance it may be gone when you go back,in cold weather it takes alot longer to react. If it is not gone I would suggest this, increase the sh strength like you said.....every thing else the same hot water and all. But I would try to find when the sun will be on those shingles and do it then.

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The water temp is important as well. Too hot willbreak down the chems, I suggest under 90 f.

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We had the same problem this past sat.  Same weather conditions and the same mix as well.  We ended up using a second coat on the black streaks that were still pronounced.  By the time we were cleaned up and about to leave the streaks were almost gone and what was left was faded.  We are headed back tomorrow to see if they have fully cleaned up.  Maybe the heavy black streaks just need a 2nd coat.

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I did not rinse the roof afterwards.

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Wow, thanks for all the kind replies!  

Good points on the water not being too hot.  I premixed the tsp with about 25 gal of 120F water, added it to the tank and added the sh and iso just before arriving at the job site 2 hours later.

Now that I think about it, I used sh from the same batch to clean the siding and it did take a bit more than normal to remove the green mold so probably the sh is old being that the supply shop hasn't been selling much over the winter.

It'd be nice to have a test kit and get the mix more precise, anyone know of a good sh test solution?

I'm planning on a second application on that roof but this time I'm waiting for a 60 degree plus day and I'm going to make sure the sh is smoking when I buy it.

Thanks again for all the suggestions.


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I hope we helped . Welcome to the forum.

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I learned a long time ago not to beat my head against reasoning out why the same mix on the same type day doesn't work the same. Because just as soon as you think you've got it figured out, it happens again, ha,ha!! Using a determined mix and adjusting to the conditions is just about all you can do,...after these basics are taken care of,...all there is to do then is spray and respray,....and move on. Otherwise you'll be changing things constantly and not really getting anywhere but confused.

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Thanks Jeff, good advice.  I know what I really should do is make a smaller batch such as 20 gal, try it out, then adjust accordingly the final batch at the job site.  Warm weather is finally in sight here in VA so that'll help the process.  

Thank you,
Mark


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