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jke0110 wrote:

Thanks Jeff, purple power is the ticket, that stuff is awesome.  I will give it a try, I have a job in the morning.


           
                     Purple power at $5.00 a gallon,... then cut with water makes it very cost effective.                              Until you're familiar with gutter cleaning, start with a less concentrated mix.                                         Also, temperature greatly affects these products and gutter cleaning.  
                     Applying with a sprayer seems to make it more effective, definitley easier


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confuse         Jeff,   I like the sprayer thing will give it a try

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confuse         Jeff,   I like the sprayer thing will give it a try


              Another idea you can maybe use,... get a 2 gallon pump sprayer, drill a hole and install a tire valve so you can use compressed air to pump air into the jug instaead of the factory pump thingy.

Get yourself an air chuck with a trigger and a gauge so you don't overfill the jug with air. Very easy to modify a jug this way and you can use a compressor or even a simple "spare air"  tank.



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What psi do you think is good before the boom noise lol

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Thats confidential,Ha,ha. But really,..it's very easy to add your air without incident,...I've been doing it for over 10 years without issue. Like I said, get one of the better gauges with a tigger and a PSI gauge and you can pump some in and let off the trigger and instantly check your psi.
I guess you should never go above the manufacturers suggested Maximum PSI rting.
But I routinely put 60 PSI in, and have always done so.

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confuse Thanks Jeff, you da man !smile

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I just got in from a roof job, and the purple power was awesome on the gutter.  I mixed the concentrate 1 part power and 4 parts water in a spray bottle.  sprayed on let it set for about 30 sec and wiped off with a rag, awesome job.
homeowner was impressed. thanks again Jeff.



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For gutter cleaning specifically, you will want to use something butyl based,...such as Purple Power or anything that has butyl listed as one of the chemicals in the product. Roof mix will only make them cleaner,...but in most cases in won't make them clean the way they should be if you're selling it as a separate service. The black streaks that gutters are notorious for is what the butyl based product works well on.

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Jeff, do you know if F13 is buytl based?



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I've never used the F-13, but I've always heard good things about it. The only reason I've never used it is simply because products such as Purple Power are so readily available and work very well and not to mention very cost effective.

If I remember right though,I think I seen somewhere that the F-13 uses Potassium Hydroxide as it's main active component,..but don't hold me to that.

I mentioned butyl based because that is what I know works.

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F-13 works very well but not without scrubbing about a 10'section, short dwell time. Then usually there will be places that must be done again in the same section before moving on. You do not want it to dry before rinseing. It's the same with each product I've tried. Must scrub. A real pain for upper floors or apartments.

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Hey guy's great info on the gutters

thanks. I am new to this sounds like a great service to add on to cleaning roofs
it will look good from top to guuter.

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Jeff is correct. F-13 is Potassium Hydroxide. I have the MSDS right in front of me.

If you have to scrub the gutters when using F-13, you are doing something wrong. I have been using it for a little while now and I can spray on, rinse off and the gutter looks great!

I just did a roof, concrete driveway and house wash today and I added the F-13 right to my house wash mix. I simply sprayed in on let it sit for 2 or 3 minutes and used a garden hose to rinse the gutter down. The home owner couldn't believe how nice everything looked. They gutters came out great!

The reason I started using the F-13 is because it is supposed to keep you from removing the good paint that is still on the gutter. F-13's claim to fame is that it only removes the oxidized layer of paint. Butyl based cleaners can take the good paint off too if you are not careful.

With all that being said, I just bought a 2.5 gallon jug of Purple Power. It is a hell of a lot cheaper than F-13. When I run out of my F-13, I am going to see if I can get the same results with the Purple Power.

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What ratio are you mixing your F-13 ? Had the gutters you cleaned already cleaned with a house mix and still had black streaks? There is a difference. Some clean up nicely during house wash. Some are still black. Those I must scrub to get them evenly cleaned.



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Generally I mix it 10 to 1. I will vary that with certain conditions. I will go 5 to 1 if they are extremely dirty and 20 to 1 if they just need a slight touch up.

I generally don't have to touch up the gutters when doing a house wash. They come clean during the wash.

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We use a black streak product from the RV industry. Five gallon bucket, truck wash brush on a telescoping pole.

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Generally I mix it 10 to 1. I will vary that with certain conditions. I will go 5 to 1 if they are extremely dirty and 20 to 1 if they just need a slight touch up.

I generally don't have to touch up the gutters when doing a house wash. They come clean during the wash.

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If the gutters come clean with your regular house wash mix and are not still a dark grayish color or highly noticeable black streaks, then you have never had the need to scrub any gutters.

 



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I'm probably just bad at searching, and I thought that this is the closest thread, so:

What do you guys do when people's gutters are full of leaves/branches/other crap? We're not planning on offering gutter cleaning services to get that stuff out of there -- is this a necessity? I'd assume it's not a huge problem as long as the gutters themselves aren't clogged... but what if they are? What do you do in that case?

Also, to stay a little relevant, has anyone tried to use Mr. Clean Magic erasers to clean the visible parts of the gutters? They may not be the most cost effective solution, but for gutters you can reach easily, all you need is some water and a light scrub to clean dirty painted gutters at least.

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I take a extendable pole with brush attached. 1-1/2 gal of mix in one bucket, water in another. Scrubby scrubby. Rinsey rinsey.

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macoto wrote:

I'm probably just bad at searching, and I thought that this is the closest thread, so:

What do you guys do when people's gutters are full of leaves/branches/other crap? We're not planning on offering gutter cleaning services to get that stuff out of there -- is this a necessity? I'd assume it's not a huge problem as long as the gutters themselves aren't clogged... but what if they are? What do you do in that case?

Also, to stay a little relevant, has anyone tried to use Mr. Clean Magic erasers to clean the visible parts of the gutters? They may not be the most cost effective solution, but for gutters you can reach easily, all you need is some water and a light scrub to clean dirty painted gutters at least.




 That is an excellent question.  With all the love "run-off", a free flowing gutter would seem to be critcal.  I would think that you could charge $1-$2 per linear foot to clean a full gutter.  How do you guys approach the customer with this?



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I had my first gutter "WASHING" job this week and it was TOUGH.  I diluted "Gutter Zap" slightly.  I thought that I could spray it on then rinse with a garden hose.  Well, that was not the case at all.  I had to wipe it off with a rag.  Sure, it worked great when I wiped it off but, holy crap!!  I was 38' + in the air for a large portion of that job.  Very scary! 

Will I need a pressure washer to do the rinsing part?  I don't feel comfortable blasting the soffit full of water.  It was NOT profitable to spray with a simple spray bottle then wipe with a rag all of that gutter for a lousy $2 per linear foot.  Somebody, please tell me that there is a better way. 


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