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I see you guys "knocking" flo-jet and sure-flo pumps, I have a small shure-flo(2gal/min)  i've been using for about 5 years with no problems pumping thru 150ft of 5/16id clear vinal  w/ a mixture of 12.5sh and dish soap for vinal sideing. in march I purchsed a 4.9 gpm shure-flo w/ 3/4 in/outlets think it was 60 psi from nothern tool, works great, even thru 250ft of 5/8 garden hose. would love to have an air manafold pump, if I can get EVEN only one year out of this pump, why should  I chunk out that kind of change. tks, Will 

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Thank you kindly. What is the deal. I did between Thursday, Friday, Monday and Tuesday 6 roofs for a total of $2700.00 dollars. Please keep your SurFlow Pump.

It is like Bling with out the shinny price!

By the way I think you should all go out and buy 5000 foot trailers and an 800 pound pressure cleaner and some 5 inch fire hose..... Really guys this is not an ITT Type Job Skill.  Monkeys can do this.

I'll keep my 100 psi 11o SurFlow

James
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Wow James. You have been fired up lately. A lot of pent up frustration?

I don't think anybody is trying to force you guys to do anything. I think these guys are just trying to give everyone their best advice from their own experiences. You don't have to do anything you don't want to. Just read their posts and make your own decisions. I have used a shurflo pump for a little while also, but I don't discount what these guys say. Experience is a great teacher and sometimes your best friend.


Brian

-- Edited by theroofcleaners on Thursday 2nd of July 2009 10:06:33 AM

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williamwinn1 wrote:

I see you guys "knocking" flo-jet and sure-flo pumps, I have a small shure-flo(2gal/min)  i've been using for about 5 years with no problems pumping thru 150ft of 5/16id clear vinal  w/ a mixture of 12.5sh and dish soap for vinal sideing. in march I purchsed a 4.9 gpm shure-flo w/ 3/4 in/outlets think it was 60 psi from nothern tool, works great, even thru 250ft of 5/8 garden hose. would love to have an air manafold pump, if I can get EVEN only one year out of this pump, why should  I chunk out that kind of change. tks, Will




I used to use Flojets back in 2006.

The new 5gpm Delavan pump came out soon that year in the late fall of 2006.

It's only $129.  $10 extra is well worth the extra performance.

The difference is surprising.

If you try the 5gpm Delavan pump you will wonder why you didn't chunk out the $10 more dollars sooner.

 

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_37142_37142

http://shop.ebay.com/items/?_nkw=Delavan+5.3gpm&_sacat=0&_trksid=p3286.m270.l1313&_odkw=Delavan+5gpm&_osacat=0


-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Pro Greensboro NC (336)362 7659 on Thursday 2nd of July 2009 12:40:13 PM

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James,   Sorry for getting you all wound up-was'nt intentonal.

I dont really understand this and I quote,
 
"By the way I think you should all go out and buy 5000 foot trailers and an 800 pound pressure cleaner and some 5 inch fire hose.."   

 fyi- I do have a 16ft trailer a washer that is able to do 5k @ 5g per minute and I am a engineer with the local fire dept. AND I happen to have a piece of 5in hose in the back of my truck today, but thanks anyway, all I really wanted to know is if a shure-flo 4.9gpm @ 60psi
 pump will work. Thanks James

Will


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William,
     I'm sure you saw Mike Sullivan's post on 12volt pumps, but if you didn't here is the link. http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=123190&p=3&topicID=21020080 

     It doesn't cover the exact pump you are talking about, but it has good information.

     Are you already in possesion of this pump or are you planning on buying the pump?

     If you already have it and are wondering if it will be good enough to clean roofs, the answer is yes. Use it until it quits working and if you take good care of it, that may be a whole season.

     If you are looking to buy it (I don't know what price you are going to pay for it) make sure that you compare it to the Delvans. If it is only $10 to $30 more for the Delvan, it is well worth the extra money. They really are good pumps.

Hope that is helpful.

Brian

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Thanks Brian, I do already have the new 4.9gpm S/F. I bought it for on board grey water pressure for things such as mixing chem. and rinse down ect. but I've not plumb it in yet. Ithink i'll go ahead and use it for roof work for a while. thank it was $130 @ nothern tool. ps-- thanks for the link

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That pump will work fine. Just keep it rinsed. Chris stated in another thread that the surflos aren't what they used to be and I really don't know myself.

The point of the more expensive air diaphragm pumping systems is longevity, flow and maintenence. A kynar pump does not need rinsed out and can last 7 years. Mine pumps over 6gpm with 200ft of 5/8 hose, and I am only using half the cfm required, it could pump even faster !!! We did $1k roof in 3hrs. the other day and made $1800 that day!!!!

Here is the biggest difference. Many guys here work themeselves on the roof, but what if you have employees doing the work?? They tend not to rinse your pumps. There is no electric pump made of A rated materials against SH. So if your employees don't rinse, your pump will go bad much faster than it would have being rinsed.

If you plan to do roofs yourself and like the pace you are setting than stick with the electrics, they are fine, and keep a backup. But if you are running like 3 crews or are trying to grow, AOD pumps will be a longer lasting solution.

There does not need to be an argument over the type of pumps used, and the price isn't that insane on AOD. AOD pumps are what many actuall bleach factories use to move SH, because they truelly are the longest lasting solution. But it seems more cost effective for guys cleaning less than 10 roofs a week to stay with the electric and rinse. Even then there is still a question as Mallard system uses all sure-flos, and had 90 trucks in operation at one time.



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Sweet, I've got the cash so may go ahead and get one after I do a couple of roofs, I already have a compressor on trailer. Thanks 

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