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My understanding of a closed forum is that its open to the search engines but closed  for posting to individuals who are not registered.  Now you got me curious.evileye

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Well, I can see your point! 

This is one reason why I am not with Google Ad Words (PPC)  Fraudulent clicks! Really! Roofing companies and the other roof cleaners would just kill me.  150 clicks and no ROI. In less than 2 hours at a time. Everyday! Just a hefty bill. Now understand that most roof companies have a secret fear of my / (our) services here in Memphis. In fact roof cleaning is a dirty little secret. Most roofing companies hate my living guts literally. They would rather sell you a roof even if your roof didn't need to be replaced at the tune of $7000. to $15,000. a pop. Memphis is a different breed! Something in the water... LOL

“From an earlier post I will say again that this is an open market. Whom ever can fix the image issues and win over the hearts and minds of Memphians' and this area will have a gold mind for life. So anyone again with great marketing skills and ad investment capital!...Well, call me.”

I have for the most part received great calls of the few made to my company number from this forum. Not only members but non roof cleaners / pressure cleaners here in Memphis etc... Oh yes some real deal companies as well “from the forum.” But a lot from wanna be information theifs!  Flim Flam Arttist who have the gaul to ask me to tell them all of the knuckle bleeding hard learned secrets of my success.

Trust me guys they are here. Why would this forum be any different from any other?

On the other hand got quite a few from pressure cleaners or so called, who wanted information from me about what kind of chemicals I use to " please tell me how your process works to. Can I come and innocently watch you do a job so I can learn your process...etc...etc..etc...


RIGHTTTTTTTT!  

While your are at it come see what kind of undies I wear?   LOL

Does it say Sammy Sucker Head Across My Brow???

I'll tell you right where I get my chemicals too while your at it.  NOT!

  There are allot of wanna bes' that are just itching to click this forum dry!  Registration would at least validate in some part. A commitment to the forum.   Not just proprietary information grabbers here for the taking. Would also continue to validate the RCIA Emblem and what we are all about on this forum.


I remember when I first started. The only way I learned was the school of stupidity and hard knocks.  This forum is great for interaction and learning but again it actually took about 6 months for my light bulbs to come on and for me not to screw stuff up on a regular basis. LOL...  Trail of teras! I paid my dues! Eight years later I do not just want to give it away to some Yocal stopping by for a visit. 

In Memphis there are basically three bonified companies, Exclusive Home Services Of Memphis being one of them.  The rest are renegade wana bees running around with pump up sprayers and back packs calling them self roof cleaners..

Same thing happened to the carpet cleaning business. Lots of rookies running around with $800. dollar portables without a clue to the real knowledge of carpet cleaning. Anyone can buy a portable and call themselves a carpet cleaner. Same with the roof cleaning industry.  It could happen.. There are now over 350 so called carpet cleaning companies in the Memphis area. About 2/3rds of them suck and badly! Just mess up the local business and give the carpet cleaning industry a bad rep. Oh yeah, I clean carpets too. 800 lb. truck mounted unit.

Of course the rookie renegades make it hard for the real deal companies in Memphis like myself because they give us a bad reputation when they screw stuff up and then do not take care of the customer complaints and concerns.

Yes. I my opinion this forum should be for registered users and bonified roof cleaning opporations. Yes, we should be an informational forum for the real deal roof cleaners. Not an easy mark for wana bees looking to acquire tid bits of information just to be able to call themselves roof cleaning professionals.

Then again the wana be flim flam artist should be weeded out an monitored. They can only damage  the industry and make it more difficult for all of to make a great living professionally. 

This is a great forum. Great people post here. Those not registered should not in my opinion be entitled to this privilege. Step up to the plate and register. Lets see what your made of. Want to be called a roof cleaner. Post so we can all enjoy your company and know that you are professionally real.


This is a professional forum for professional roof cleaning professionals!
Not Wanna Be Rookies!

Regards,

James Vinson

Exclusive Home Services Of Memphis
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-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Memphis TN on Saturday 18th of April 2009 09:44:10 PM

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Memphis TN on Saturday 18th of April 2009 09:45:04 PM

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Another thing, Can anyone register and give false information on who they are and their location? Some thing should be verified,maybe even come up with a umber or a limit of how many companys we will have from one area. Would it be fair to help the " FLIM FLAMS " crowd or over take a area causing a bad rep fro roof cleaners?

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Another thing, Can anyone register and give false information on who they are and their location? Some thing should be verified,maybe even come up with a umber or a limit of how many companys we will have from one area. Would it be fair to help the " FLIM FLAMS " crowd or over take a area causing a bad rep fro roof cleaners?




 confuse Lets get $100.00 up front to keep the LOSERS away



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I don't think I have had the pleasure of saying Hi and Welcome to the board James, So Hi and Welcome.  I liked this post you wrote and Fairly well agree.  I agree that all people who want to learn this should be sharing and part of the community.  I also want all fo you to remember when you started and how hard it truelly is!!  We need not shut out all people just because they may be new to the industry or doing it wrong, that is to my understanding why the Admins of this forum started this forum.  We want to teach people the right way but we also want to avoid scammers, con-artists and fly by nighters.  There is a clear difference between the 2.  One is geniunely concerned about their customer, their company, and their community.  The others all have special signs that show what they really are.  No, this info might not remain free to everyone, but lets try our best to make it available to those who will help our customers understand that we are the proper pros for the job, that our methods are top notch, that our community of pros are responsible and conected to the right information to get the job done safley and effectivley. 



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Well, I can see your point! 

This is one reason why I am not with Google Ad Words (PPC)  Fraudulent clicks! Really! Roofing companies and the other roof cleaners would just kill me.  150 clicks and no ROI. In less than 2 hours at a time. Everyday! Just a hefty bill. Now understand that most roof companies have a secret fear of my / (our) services here in Memphis. In fact roof cleaning is a dirty little secret. Most roofing companies hate my living guts literally. They would rather sell you a roof even if your roof didn't need to be replaced at the tune of $7000. to $15,000. a pop. Memphis is a different breed! Something in the water... LOL

“From an earlier post I will say again that this is an open market. Whom ever can fix the image issues and win over the hearts and minds of Memphians' and this area will have a gold mind for life. So anyone again with great marketing skills and ad investment capital!...Well, call me.”

I have for the most part received great calls of the few made to my company number from this forum. Not only members but non roof cleaners / pressure cleaners here in Memphis etc... Oh yes some real deal companies as well “from the forum.” But a lot from wanna be information theifs!  Flim Flam Arttist who have the gaul to ask me to tell them all of the knuckle bleeding hard learned secrets of my success.

 

Trust me guys they are here. Why would this forum be any different from any other?

On the other hand got quite a few from pressure cleaners or so called, who wanted information from me about what kind of chemicals I use to " please tell me how your process works to. Can I come and innocently watch you do a job so I can learn your process...etc...etc..etc...


RIGHTTTTTTTT!  

While your are at it come see what kind of undies I wear?   LOL

Does it say Sammy Sucker Head Across My Brow???

I'll tell you right where I get my chemicals too while your at it.  NOT!

  There are allot of wanna bes' that are just itching to click this forum dry!  Registration would at least validate in some part. A commitment to the forum.   Not just proprietary information grabbers here for the taking. Would also continue to validate the RCIA Emblem and what we are all about on this forum.


I remember when I first started. The only way I learned was the school of stupidity and hard knocks.  This forum is great for interaction and learning but again it actually took about 6 months for my light bulbs to come on and for me not to screw stuff up on a regular basis. LOL...  Trail of teras! I paid my dues! Eight years later I do not just want to give it away to some Yocal stopping by for a visit. 

In Memphis there are basically three bonified companies, Exclusive Home Services Of Memphis being one of them.  The rest are renegade wana bees running around with pump up sprayers and back packs calling them self roof cleaners..

Same thing happened to the carpet cleaning business. Lots of rookies running around with $800. dollar portables without a clue to the real knowledge of carpet cleaning. Anyone can buy a portable and call themselves a carpet cleaner. Same with the roof cleaning industry.  It could happen.. There are now over 350 so called carpet cleaning companies in the Memphis area. About 2/3rds of them suck and badly! Just mess up the local business and give the carpet cleaning industry a bad rep. Oh yeah, I clean carpets too. 800 lb. truck mounted unit.

Of course the rookie renegades make it hard for the real deal companies in Memphis like myself because they give us a bad reputation when they screw stuff up and then do not take care of the customer complaints and concerns.

Yes. I my opinion this forum should be for registered users and bonified roof cleaning opporations. Yes, we should be an informational forum for the real deal roof cleaners. Not an easy mark for wana bees looking to acquire tid bits of information just to be able to call themselves roof cleaning professionals.

Then again the wana be flim flam artist should be weeded out an monitored. They can only damage  the industry and make it more difficult for all of to make a great living professionally. 

This is a great forum. Great people post here. Those not registered should not in my opinion be entitled to this privilege. Step up to the plate and register. Lets see what your made of. Want to be called a roof cleaner. Post so we can all enjoy your company and know that you are professionally real.


This is a professional forum for professional roof cleaning professionals!
Not Wanna Be Rookies!

Regards,

James Vinson

Exclusive Home Services Of Memphis
www.wecleanroofs.net







 



-- Edited by Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 on Sunday 19th of April 2009 07:46:24 PM

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I too would vote for a closed forum. I've been reading everything I can for the last few months as I get my new business in order and up and running. I think only professional roof cleaners and newbies serious enough to join should have access.

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Before i start this message i would like 2 say Thank You! to all that have shared their sweat pain and time lessons to all of us newbie trying to start a survive out here. I remember talking to Chris of apple roof cleaning on the phone and he simply told me about the site and all of brother are here to help. I toke that to the heart because theirs not many others out their willing to help like the RICA. I'm going to  be honest i haven't made my first payment because of lack of funds but i feel if we have to pay to keep us!!! Who claim to be part of a brotherhood then thats what we have to do! Also i plan to share my way of a setup, ways of cleaning, and techniques whenever i finally get started. We as people need to get pride back of showning are differences which makes us all different. I'm  in the saving process i'm starting from nothing but the lint in my pocket and i read these post most of you have to it bring joy to here of your success but like not what the RICA did to get you there and how it helped advance some of you vet's. THanks AgIAN! 
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We will be discussing this in Tampa at the Roundtable.
Honestly, I would rather have 50 SERIOUS roof cleaning professionals then 600 Hacks!
Our Forum Bill was 27 dollars last month, with few posts to support those numbers.
This means people are reading this Forum, and contributilng LITTLE but a Forum bill, and competition for us ALL.

I JUST saw the Movie 300, anyone else seen it ?
It is about the 300 heroic Greek Spartans who took on the HUGE Persian Iran Army!

The Spartan General could not get the support olf the Spartan Council because the Gods said they could only have a War at certain times !!!
The Persian Army  coukd care less about any Gods.
So,, the Spartan General said "Give me  only 300 of the very best Men" and went off to FIGHT the Persians.

I am thinking along those lines lately.

Give me the BEST Roof Cleaners in the World, or those SERIOUS about wanting to get even BETTER.

We have some options on the Forum ?
We CAN Password Protect our Forums, and/or make registration possible ONLY with approval.
Lots of ways to go.




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confuseI think you'll get a lot of support on this Chris and besides the sopport theres nothing wrong with100.00 donation to be a member and then a annual 100.00 some may say screw you but most here would not be in this business if it wasn't for this forum !

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confuseI think you'll get a lot of support on this Chris and besides the sopport theres nothing wrong with100.00 donation to be a member and then a annual 100.00 some may say screw you but most here would not be in this business if it wasn't for this forum !




We will be discussing this, for sure.

 



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Chris,

I thought that the poll you posted was 90% in favor of a closed & paid forum? If this is the case then you should close the forum to registered members and have an annual fee. If people are serious about roof cleaning they will go through the registration process and pay a fee without hesitation.

As for my posts I only post on subjects that I feel are beneficial to the forum. I also don't want to just ad posts to boost my status without adding positive feedback.

I believe in helping however I can and that is why I made a donation when you posted the poll.

Just my thoughts.

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I have not been a member long, but I think this is a great Idea and needs to be done. Anyone that is in business FOR REAL knows and understands expenses. It costs money to be in business period.... There are expenses that you just have to incur that you do not benefit from eg. fuel, oil changes, tires etc. Then there are the expenses that you do benefit from eg. Education and Training in ones field. I am always looking to learn more about my business ventures. This forum is a WORLD of knowledge in the ROOF CLEANING industry, and is only getting better with more input from everyone. I would pay an annual fee in a heart beat. As CHRIS has hinted at keeping the best of the best, or at least the ones that want to be the best and be part of a great brotherhood of ROOF CLEANERS. A $100. annual membership would keep most, if not all of the "Hacks" out. Besides it is tax deductible..... LoL.... Anyway.... you guys have my support.

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confuse Right now 50% of the people watching right now on this site are guests and most likely will stay as guests and this % will increase as time goes on, ever notice when someone is on the ground and needs help how many people stand there and look and only a few help, well thats what goes on here , i call them LOSERS i'll help anybody that needs help and thats what we're here for is to help each other and not just look .

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Long Island New York (631) 220 6985 on Friday 5th of June 2009 08:48:48 PM

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I agree.  What makes a true professional is his applied, learned experience and that is what is being posted on this forum.  Though the founders have good intentions and expectations for this forum, we cant expect them to dump all this hard earned education on us for FREE!  I have paid to attend classes, seminars and the alike for years and I would pay for the info on this site.

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You guys DO reealize that when we close and move to a paid ONLY forum, we will lose members ?
SOME will not pay, and we will lose them ?



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Yes, but I thought quality was more important then quantity.

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confuseIf their serious they'll stay, if not theres the door people spend money on a lot of BS things and if thier serious about a business a few bucks won't hurt . how many people have all the cable channels , nice car, ipod, etc., etc, and pay monthly. Hey just pay a few bucks a.month after lets say a 25.00 sign in fee and then 10.00 a month, please thats not hard just charge a customer 10.00 extra

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Long Island New York (631) 220 6985 on Friday 5th of June 2009 11:56:38 PM

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I don't think closing it is a good idea. I also don't think we should charge anyone a fee for the information on here..........just my thoughts.......

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I agree with closing the forum. I think that we could share more info and keep the lookers out and keep the purity of the trade.

Charlie i would like to hear why you think that we should not close the forum.

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I feel that we all have learned somthing from one and other on here and we should give it back. I also think a fee would discourage others from signing up and getting this information.......I also feel why close the door to the barn after the horses have left?

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