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Do You Rinse or not? [59 vote(s)]

Yes I Rinse
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Pat,

So are there no dangers at all from not rinsing? How long after spraying before the SH is considered neutralized? Thanks.

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Wouldn't the rain reactivate the solution slightly?

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Well I hate to rinse, and if I can avoid it I do the only problem I have had not rinsing is run off onto grass or plants close to the gutters. I like Mike, Chris agree leaving it on makes the roof stay cleaner longer but my only issue has been when it does rain the run off has caused damage to plants or grass at the down spout areas.

The roof will come clean with only the roof wash and I like the time and amount of work you can do. I have went out and took 2 ground guys with me on a saturday, did 4 to 5 roofs from 8 - 3 back home by 4 with 1500.00 or 2000.00 in my pocket and I did not rinse, but again I have had some issues with damage to plants or grass but that does not always happen.

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James brought this subject up with me on the phone and I wanted to share our conversation.

Chris has mentioned to me and I have had experience with this as well as James has too, about rain washing the chemicals down the gutters shortly after a recent roof cleaning and causing damage.

Dilution is the solution. As long as your ground man is adequately rinsing landscaping and bagging gutters there should not be a problem.

To adequately rinse means not just spraying the overspray off the tops of the plants.

Take the nozzle off the end of the hose and run open water flow directly underneath the downspout to saturate plants near it.

Plants are not pigs like people are, and only consume water they need.

After the plants drink the water you have given them they will not be thirsty and if the rain washes fresh chemical down the gutters they will not drink the chemical because they should be satisfied from the water.

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I plan to try my next couple of jobs without the rinse.

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I know we talk about this before.  but, I'm  still having problems with mold, since it doesn't come off right away. I just did a job and home owner wasn't happy at all bacause  he wanted to see the roof clean right away he asked me if rinsing it will come off Isaid no, ( lots of landscapeand gutter guards ar not alowing gutters to catch any water and don;t want to kill landscape)and then he said I got a pressure washer in the garage if you want to use it, what do you do with customers like that?

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Yes Mike thank you for your time that day, I did enjoy our conversation on the phone as I always do with you or Chris. I have recently talked to David from roof cleaning USA. He seen some  post on the forum that I had replied to and was very nice to call and share some knowledge with me that he had gathered over the years and some good advice, thank you David for that. 

Mike I put what we had talked about and what you said to good use, thank you.


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sorry guys!! I said mold insted of "moss" ""just wanted to corect my post""


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Do a search on moss.

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Yes Mike thank you for your time that day, I did enjoy our conversation on the phone as I always do with you or Chris. I have recently talked to David from roof cleaning USA. He seen some  post on the forum that I had replied to and was very nice to call and share some knowledge with me that he had gathered over the years and some good advice, thank you David for that.


Mike I put what we had talked about and what you said to good use, thank you.

 



No problem James.  Glad to see you like your new 3/4" hose also.

 



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I find that with most stubborn home owners, if you give professional and CONFIDENT answers, they will accept what you are telling them. If they hear hesitation in your voice, they will lack confidence in your explanation. I also tell them that I follow up with every customer after a week or two to check on their satisfaction with the roof and to take some quality after pictures. I tell them if there are any streaks still left on the roof after a few good hard rains, that I will come back and touch them up. After all, a bad looking roof cleaning is your worst advertising!

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"After all, a bad looking roof cleaning is your worst advertising!"

I think that is a very powerful statement Brian. It lets the H\O know that you have a stake in "his" project, your not just there after the money.
Do you ever tell them that you will postpone collecting the payment for a week or two?


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Always collect your payment when you are done spraying. Except when doing a commercial job that takes 30-60 days for payment.

You need to trust the solution and you need to convey that to your customers.

Always collect becuase you never know when thier going to be on " vacation"

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Mike is right.

Unfortunately, some people will become very difficult to get money from if you do not collect it as soon as the job is done. The are not intentionally trying not to pay you, but they don't seem to make it a priority either.

I always discuss payment methods when I am scheduling the job. If they are not going to be home, I make them leave a check for me or give me the credit card numbers over the phone.

Confidence in your actions and words will often be enough to ease any hesitation the customer may have. Don't give them any reason to doubt what you are saying and they usually won't doubt it.

Don't be overbearing about it. Just try to come accross as educated about your business and genuine in your customer interaction.

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what if it isn't suppose to rain for days?
would the chemicals sitting on asphault shingles for days hurt them or the life of them??

thanks for all of you help.


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Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

mobilewashexpress wrote:

Hello All,

I am a newbie to the roof washing business coming this spring in Jamestown, NY. I have read tons of these posts here and want to thank everyone tremendoulsy for finding the time to make this forum what it is. I have learned a ton.

I have been in the business of pressure washing 1 full year and have 5 years total experience. I have 14 foot box truck, 500 gallon tank, 3500 psi 5.5 gpm hot skid unit, surface cleaner, etc. etc. I had a very successful first seson in 2008 running my own show.

I decided to look into roof cleaning here because alot of my clients asked if i did roofs. I had to say I was not YET ready with correct equipment and knowledge, but promised i would do my homework, get setup and come back in 09 ready. . .

SO. I read this forum alot and here is what I did:

  1. Called BOB at Pressure tek - got the 12v fatboy setup- complete with hoses, reels, wands. On its way tomorrow
  2. Ordered a 100 gallon poly tank from tank depot. (will expand if all goes well)
  3. Contacted a chemical supplier for Sodium Hypochlorite -(how much should this cost/gallon?) they said like $2.00 a gallon. I can get 55 gallon drums.
  4. Going to get deep cycle battery and boxes at local boat store.
  5. Sharing my excitement with everyone now.
  1. Quick Questions: To rinse or not to rinse seems split - does it look just as good without rinsing? How long to let dwell?
Thanks

Zack


IF you rinse, gotta let it dwell for an hour to be sure all spores die.
IF you rinse, rinse real good, one side of home at a time, and keep flushing plants as the chemical drips off.
Then, BEFORE you go to the other side, rinse the root beds of the plants/grass by FLOODING those areas.
You MUST rinse the chemical BELOW the root line.
It takes MUCH longer to rinse a roof properly then it does to clean it.
Improper rinsing will KILL plants for sure.
Take your time, IF you are going to rinse.



Ditto!

If it takes 40 gallons to clean the roof and you want to rinse it, expect to use 400 gallons of water to rinse it!

You will spend at the very least the same amount of time rinsing and watering as you did setting up and spraying the roof. But more likely 50% more time.

I rinse the lower 1/3 of roofs without gutters, especially if they're tile.
Other than that, no rinsing unless the customer pays for it.
I charge the same price to rinse that I charge to clean!

 



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Save on selling w/o rinsing is working for me as well. Very good incentive!

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Thanks for the Knowledge You couldn't have said it any better The More I read I learn =]

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I truly want to thank everyone who provided input to this thread. I have learn so much in so little time. Ty

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Welcome Tyler.

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