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Hey Everyone,

I’m new to the forum and wanted to ask a few questions that have probably been asked before but after reading hundreds of posts on both the members and public areas I still have not truly found an answer I’m comfortable with (plus my eyes are hurting from so much reading).

 I also want to say thank you to everyone who has contributed to make this happen, I truly think this is a great site and I have learned a great amount about this industry. Please keep up the great work!

Now to my questions and concerns (by the way, for good or for bad I over think and worry way too much, so I think I maybe watering and rinsing a bit extensively, but it can’t hurt right :o) )

Background: Working in the Northeast U.S., 90% of all houses have gutters, 60% have gutter guards/covers, 60% have underground drainage systems to a dry well or release to the yard away from the house.

Questions:

1)      I’ve seen three different methodologies for dealing with gutters and runoff and I want to see which is preferred and if I was understanding the presented material correctly.

a.       Block gutter down spouts, fill with water to dilute chemical and let gutters continually over flow, then release the water and soak the ground some more. I see some issues with this due to weight concerns, but not a bad concept but many houses we service have old gutters.

b.       Bag gutter down spouts to collect runoff, bucket collected chem, and take away when leaving.  Then flush gutters well (or not, this seems to be a gray area for me based on the posts). Again soaking the down spout areas well before introduction of any chemical. Only concern is volume of chemical discharge when flushing.

c.       Soak the area at the downspout, and then flush the gutters, then re water area at down deposit location.

 

2)      When rinsing out gutters, how much is enough water.

a.       Enough to clean out all standing chem

b.      Enough to clean out all standing chem and rinse sides of any reside.

 

3)      When watering at the bottom of a down spout how much water is enough? (This is my big question, I say when it seems like enough do it 2x more)

a.       One persons soaking is another’s 1 min wet down.  (Looking for time / volumes if possible)

 

4)      How do I handle gutter guards, most houses have either the tin type with slits cut or gutter helmet. Tin type I can remove sections to get a hose in but the gutter helmet / topper in most cases I cannot. I try shooting water in them using this gutter cleaning stick but it’s a pain in the butt and never seems to do a great job.

(As well, I install Gutterglove gutter protection and wanted to see if there were any ideas as to the reaction of with roof mix with stainless steel mesh and anodized aluminum?)

5)      1 out of 10 how important is rinsing out gutters.  Some of these houses are 3+ stories and getting up to shoot the roof is a 40’ ladder... I do my best but some areas are completely impossible to reach. (I don’t even see how they got gutters installed without a man lift)

 

6)      Gutter Drain systems: a good % of the time I cannot get any fluid (or minimal) to exit these systems (long runs), or they drain into a Dry Well water collection system under ground. 

a.       How do I deal with either of these situations?

b.      When they do discharge is it very hard to collect any of it. Any ideas? (Was thinking about cutting out a patch of grass digging a hole and keeping it soaked ) So far lots of water has worked.

 

7)      Roof rinsing – to rinse or not to rinse. I’ve seen this go either way on here and up here in the north with all the gutters I have not been rinsing anything with a gutter.  Still far so good.

 

8)      Last question, it seems that most of my jobs to shoot the roof takes about  ¼ of the total time on the job and “clean up” the watering / rinsing takes 3/4, does this seem about right or am I over doing it.

Thanks to all who replay and thanks again for all the knowledge. 



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-- Edited by Tylerb1 on Monday 21st of May 2012 08:57:45 PM

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Welcome Tyler.  It's not often that a Roof Shampoo dealer jumps ship  

Feel free to give me a ring.  We have lots of rain in the forecast, so I'll be behind a desk for a while    I have a few questions for you about Roof Shampoo while we're at it.    Deal?

 

>>edit to include this<<  I supect that 3% refers to a 3% chlorine solution, eg 30% chlorine to 70% water based on SH at a 10%.   Man, that's sounds confusing  LOL.



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Hi Tyler,

Good questions. It indicates on your website that you are the 'non bleach option'. Your links showing your process, show a surface cleaner being used for an asphalt roof. Is this old info?

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Eric SCHNAIBLE wrote:

Hi Tyler,

Good questions. It indicates on your website that you are the 'non bleach option'. Your links showing your process, show a surface cleaner being used for an asphalt roof. Is this old info?


 He owns a rooooff  shapoooo franchise. Watch what you say.



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Correct, that is the process I started last year which I have discontinued since I learned about chemical based cleaning. My new site is being developed as we speak and should be operational within a few weeks.

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Then he should not be on here, right?

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Very observant, correct I was an independent roof shampoo provider (not a franchise). They were one of the only places that had packages put together to help with business start up (flyers, logos, before and afters pics, documents, training, support, forms, ect). Made it a great way to learn about the industry and have a company up and running with minimal start up cost.

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Excuse me, why should I not be on here?

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Tylerb1 wrote:

Excuse me, why should I not be on here?


 I tried to explain in my PM how most on RCIA feel about other types of businesses coming on here and "possibly" trying to start trouble. If you are true to your statements above, Welcome.  If NOT, your stay will be short.

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I was saying if you are using a surface cleaner to clean a roof, that is not the RCIA way. If you did change then I welcome you. JMHO

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Gentleman, my eyes have been opened and I am fully vested in softwash roof and house cleaning. I have spent the rest of my life savings putting this whole company back together after last Nov a 4.5' oak crushed the garage, my van (ladders & most everything). I am all in or bust! Now please back to my concerns and questions. These have been lingering for weeks but I wanted to put it all together. So far this year 25 cleanings, no damage, with 100 % customer satifaction. I had one call back asking for a spot touch up but said it went away and wants me to clean her house and boat house after she saw the shed. Using a dual pump system got from my sale guy Bill Wilson At www.powerwashstore.com (great help) have 1 65gal chen tank and 1 65 mix tank. Most roofs using a 3% mix, most siding =

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-- Edited by Tylerb1 on Monday 21st of May 2012 08:58:33 PM

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3% of what on the roofs?

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Tyler you spent money on a Roof Shampoo franchise and are deciding to bail out on it? Tell us more about your 3% roof mix.

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We just want to make sure that ALL of our members actually clean roofs the RCIA way.

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I am also a Gutterglove dealer and general contractor. Feel free to pm or call.
You can tell me where to get me some of that 3%, SH is expensive out here.


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So is anyone going to answer any of my questions? 



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The answers are found in the search box! I red for 2 years before I asked a question. They are here just look back though old posts.

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Roof Cleaning By A&E wrote:

The answers are found in the search box! I red for 2 years before I asked a question. They are here just look back though old posts.


 I can not help your lack of motivation to reach out to experts to find the answers to your questions. That is exactly why you are two years behind in your progress and business development. 



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