Wow, Really Chris? There must be some good money for you in all this. You trying to get him back on here so bad. Just a few weeks ago you were on another board attacking him and him you.
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Wow, Really Chris? There must be some good money for you in all this. You trying to get him back on here so bad. Just a few weeks ago you were on another board attacking him and him you.
There is NO money from what AC does on the RCIA. He sold several excursions w/o paying the RCIA, and I let it slide for all the work he did for us. You all must remember, AC and I go WAY back. He was once my close friend, besides being the most formidable competitor I ever faced. I gave him fits as his competitor as well. Regardless of if I am mad at AC at the time, or not, he brings a lot to the table.
Quick, name me one other person who has what he has to offer the RCIA ? WHO can say they built and owned the largest roof and exterior cleaning company the world has ever known ?
This helps lend credibility to the RCIA, you can't deny that.
Yes, we attacked each other, as 2 Alpha Males sometimes will do.
And, I do not know IF my plan will work as far as AC goes either ?
I do however strongly feel that IF we can bury the hatchet, we will be stronger with AC then w/o him.
AC and I have no "Deal". This may all backfire, and so be it, if it does. But just as a NFL Team will try and keep a star player, I want to TRY and repair my relationship with AC Lockyer.
I brought AC to the Industry, and we were once close friends.
I think it is time we get all the stuff about AC out in the open that has been bothering us, and see how and IF AC Responds.
Who knows, AC MAY apologize, and he may not. We will see ?
Maybe with some honest, open communications we can correct some things, and all be better for it ?
Maybe not, but at least I can say I tried my best to avoid a war that will be costly to all.
OK David I have watched your egotistical drunken elephant say your piece enough. You kiss Chris but when he agrees with you, but as soon as he says something you don't like you show your true colors. Blatant disrespect to those that put bread on YOUR table!! My turn...
Good for you Chris!! As I told the mob that wanted AC gone in the first place, those were not Chris' feelings. I am glad to see that you are no longer letting a small group of 30 people who claim to be the majority run your board into the ground. The only thing we can prove is a majority, is the number of guests that used to come here and no longer do, because they fear the criticism of the mob that claimed they were going to make it all better.
I have e-mails, letters and phone calls with well over 100 roof cleaners that feel the opposite of this mob. Even you Chris admitted they were a mob and didn't know what to do with them. Now they criticize me saying I didn't care when they tried their best to get me on their side. What they never understood was that I was being fair to ALL the members. 30 out of 150 paid members is the minority!! Welcome to democracy, I didn't push to kick AC out because there was no vote and the majority had either no opinion or wanted him to stay.
As soon as AC was gone the same group left you hanging in the wind Chris. You couldn't even get a single one of them to help you represent RCIA at the Tampa event. They never cared about you or RCIA, they just wanted AC gone. Maybe the 25 people that the other 5 persuaded will start to see the reality of this.
I was promised specifically by 3 of them that they would work hard to make RCIA great if AC would just be out of they way. To bad less than 30 days after he resigned they suddenly fell silent.
This is your playground Chris. And you know as well as I that this board lost more members over the bashing of AC than anything else that has ever happened on here.
Remember when AC offered to resign at the meeting we sat in and you said no f-them. You were right that day and I understand how it is when you have an organized group feeding you their agenda and planning just to get their way. You were manipulated just so they could feel better.
Of course AC is not perfect, hell he can be a real ego-A-hole. But that doesn't mean everyone should type in all caps and act like a bunch of children just to get their way.
I see some of the same bunch saying they have no work. Well wake up and smell your own stink. We have all showed you how to get work. You don't have work because you are full of excuses and hate, and spend time trying to destroy those who are out to help you. So what if he sells info, so does RCIA!! It's the same thing!!
Chris you are the man!! I take back anything bad I have said about you or AC in this situation as passions can run high and the true leaders in this world show it with their character as you have just done.
This forum used to be open to all cleaners and vendors!!
Now I am sure this post will get a lot of heat and bunch of the same people I am speaking of will get all mad and outraged as usual.
BUT WILL ANY THEM HAVE THE DECENCY TO ADMIT THAT THERE ARE TWO SIDE TO A STORY AND THAT THEY MADE MISTAKES AS WELL!!!
I KNOW I DID THE BIGGEST ONE WAS NOT JUST BANNING THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE AND LETTING THEM CONTINUE ON THEIR CRUSADE.
So there you have it.. Chris, AC and Myself have all admitted we made mistakes in this matter. We all made a bunch of mistakes.
Any one else willing to be a man or will they hide in the shadows??
-- Edited by Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 on Monday 15th of August 2011 05:11:10 PM
OK David I have watched your egotistical drunken elephant say your piece enough..
Drunken? Not a drop! Because what I say goes against you you get abusive and make up lies. 100% sober. Egotistical! Really. You must be looking in the mirror again. We know you are in love with AC. How long did it take you to copy this thread and give it to him?
but as soon as he says something you don't like you show your true colors. Blatant disrespect to those that put bread on YOUR table!!
Of course I am going to say something if Chris says something I don't like. He asked for our opinion. My colors towards AC have always been shown. No disrespect towards Chris for voicing my thoughts or opinions. I am sure he doesn't take it as that either. Only you would take it that way if someone disagrees with the Great Booze.
I was just wondering about the flip flop of Chris's decision. Just weeks ago he was calling a call to arms to get help from us in the war against AC.
After reading his answer I decided I really don't care if AC comes back or not. As long as every thread or answer that he gives doesn't include an advertisement to get money. Or if someone mentions a way to make or where to get something cheaper we don't get a PM from him damning us for helping! As long as it isn't in their cage.
Well enough of my so called drunken BOOZE(pun intended) prattle.
-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Raleigh NC on Monday 15th of August 2011 05:21:36 PM
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Sorry David, I really didn't mean that you are drunken. A pink elephant is a very well known anaolgy for being drunk. Like in the old time cartoons, drunk people would see pink elephants.
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So there was no intention of 'making things up'. As you do when you say I love AC. I love my wife, not AC. Your posts do come off as egocentric to me when you type in all caps against people, when you do not get your way.
Again I have admitted mistakes. Can you not do the same??
I used to shake my head in amazement when people wanted A/C out, the guy knows to much stuff and in the long run could only help each of us. I don't care if he makes millions on here or anyone else.......he has alot of knowledge and when you ask him a question it shows in his response....WELCOME BACK A/C?
Ok, my turn. AC was my friend, we made each other thosands of dollars, he owned Terra Clean Commercial, and owned Mallard who used to service Tampa. AC had thousands of Tampa warranty Customers he sent me, and I sent him commercial leads I dont have enough trucks to do. Not a week went by we weren't on the phone talking.
AC did not want to come on the internet, I basically drug him on here. I brought him here because I thought he could help RCIA grow. He worked his ass off for RCIA, and so did Bill.
And so does Gary Weir. AC decided to become a distributor, and that was where the problem started.
IS it REALLY such a conflict of Interest Guys. I mean WTF, if you have a friend who is queer as a 3 dollar Bill, but does not act it, or hit on you, what's the problem ?
Our friends at the PWNA Board are connected to Deluxe, but as long as the non profit ORG is seperate, and no rules are passed benefiting only Deluxe, is it really a problem ?
Bill Booze has a great point, no one offered to help RCIA at the tampa roundtable, we did not even have a speaking spot.