You cant talk your way out of Tampa, and what you did. With my card. You cant. You can post vids like you did. Say how a big a dude you are, and you are.
You threw my card on the ground. You did.
No you said I said it didnt have a name? Lets get that straight, I was reminded by a person that I did throw your card on the ground. Just like I through lots of other on the ground. OPPSSSS you forgot many peoples cards hit the Floor.
Now lets see if you know why your card that you say I lied about your name on it. Yes it had your name on it, do you know why it was on the floor with many others?
BECAUSE YOU WHERE NOT IN THE ROOM AT THE TIME OF THE DRAW!!! YOU HAD TO BE PRESENT!!!
The Bar got you again... HAHAHA
WOW!!!
Glad thats cleared up!!!!
I was there! I seen you drop the card on the ground. You said it wasnt filled out. Immediatly a friend in the first row came back to me! Later others did.
I was there, I didnt miss chit Ron.
Whis that was something we could agree on. Its not. I was there and watched you throw throw my card on the ground.
My own eyes man. You did not call out gutterdogs. or mike hockman. It was empty, not filled out, your own words. I was there! I heard everything.
Have your witness call me or post here. If your witness says I cheated you then I can assure you that it was not intentional.
If you witness doesnt show up I can claim damages for my reputation being smeared by your drunk Azz.
Saying someone cheated you is a very serious matter!! My reputation is Flawless, I take my brand very serious.
I'm also a RCIA member and your accusing me of ripping you off. This has happened multiple times with you Mike, I can assure you that I will take the proper action with this association to fix this problem.
Open and investigation up on me for falsly fixing a contest. Its actually a Major crime your accusing me of, lets get the authoritys involved in Tampa. I want this investigated and police reports filed depositions taken.
I don't think you realize this to me is not a game, its my life and family your attacking and my reputation i have built for my entire life you question.
Let get to the bottom of this corruption, also how many here will never come to and NCE event based on Mike accustations?
Please start posting now about how much of a crook you believe Iam because of things you have heard on the phone via pm or any other form of communications.
Please come forward at name all the people who have told you NCE is a Fraud?
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Dont take this personal Ron. You are kinda going overboard a lil bit. I'm sure everything is on the up and up about you. All I know is the one time. My card you dropped on the ground. I heard you say it was blank. I was there. 5 min. later a friend, first row came back and told me, that it was my card, and a few weeks later talking to another friend that was front row as well seen my name on the card. And that is it.
I have never heard anything bad about you Ron. This is all I know.
Bringing charges up on me, well, you may not want to go there Ron.
Corruption and all those other words you used above. I'm not saying that at all. Maybe you didnt look at the other side of the card, and assumed it was blank. Human error. I dunno???
I'm not out to get you or the NCE. I even entered your video contest. With hopes of winning! Making that vid was fun, and pushed me to making vids! I appriciate that push. Now I can pop them out at a moments notice. You even like the vid, said it put a smile on ya face or something. Thanks Ron!!!
Over the course of 3 or 4 months? (not sure how long), The rules have been tweaked. I've decided to take myself out of the contest.
I'm flattered when ever I get a text message from you! I think You are the driving force in this industry. Glad you are here making it easier for guys like me. I would not be where I'm at today, If it wasnt for what you have been doing, over the course of many many years.
Now in a nutshell. Human error with the card. The video contest, you softened the rules because in the beginning you werent getting the volume of vids you were expecting. Nobody is perfect.
Last thing. Assuming someone is drunk because they dissagree with you. Hmmm?
I will not post any more on this. Have at it Ron. You will not get any more responses out of me.
Dont take this personal Ron. You are kinda going overboard a lil bit. I'm sure everything is on the up and up about you. All I know is the one time. My card you dropped on the ground. I heard you say it was blank. I was there. 5 min. later a friend, first row came back and told me, that it was my card, and a few weeks later talking to another friend that was front row as well seen my name on the card. And that is it.
I have never heard anything bad about you Ron. This is all I know.
Bringing charges up on me, well, you may not want to go there Ron.
Corruption and all those other words you used above. I'm not saying that at all. Maybe you didnt look at the other side of the card, and assumed it was blank. Human error. I dunno???
I'm not out to get you or the NCE. I even entered your video contest. With hopes of winning! Making that vid was fun, and pushed me to making vids! I appriciate that push. Now I can pop them out at a moments notice. You even like the vid, said it put a smile on ya face or something. Thanks Ron!!!
Over the course of 3 or 4 months? (not sure how long), The rules have been tweaked. I've decided to take myself out of the contest.
I'm flattered when ever I get a text message from you! I think You are the driving force in this industry. Glad you are here making it easier for guys like me. I would not be where I'm at today, If it wasnt for what you have been doing, over the course of many many years.
Now in a nutshell. Human error with the card. The video contest, you softened the rules because in the beginning you werent getting the volume of vids you were expecting. Nobody is perfect.
Last thing. Assuming someone is drunk because they dissagree with you. Hmmm?
I will not post any more on this. Have at it Ron. You will not get any more responses out of me.
Best wishes (really) - Mike
Mike I take these contest very serious, people rely on me to be honest and fair. You suggested that I was a liar and criminal in that I F you personally.
Brother the people who told you it was your card saw a partial card filled out with no name and signature possibly and could determine that it was yours. I have to play by the rules my friend, they have to have your name on them.
You see many companies got cards addressed to them, each individual was allowed to enter those addressed as long as the name was filled in. Sorry you didn't listen and read the rules.
I got in now, people saw gutter-dogs card on the floor, with around 50 others that didn't listen.
If I was truly out to F you do you think I would have thrown the card on the floor Idiot.
Thanks for explaining finally, now you know you got treated fairly like everyone else who didn't fill out the card.
We are not friends, you intent here did what was intended. Cause confusion and make me look bad.
You won
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Best overall Company Video- Prize: Distributor Gift Card
Weird Video -NO Prize
Rules:
Video must be posted in one of these BBS threads in contest thread.
Only one video per contestant.
Only one winner will receive the $500.00 at the end of contest random drawing
Other categories must have three nominees from General membership or contestants. The nominations require that video be quoted and labeled for the proper Categories listed above. 500 dollar video needs no nominations because all videos will be automatically entered into the random drawing. You cannot nominate your own video.
Please DO NOT PM OR EMAIL ME, Please send this info to laurenppw@aol.com
Mandatory OPT into Texting (Text 25827 type in NCE and Hit Send)
Keep this in mind the contest is for fun, so make a video either promo or fun. Videos do not have to be new, just your property and related to the cleaning industry in some form. JUST DO IT!!
Contest end TBA late March
Any Photo Posted in this thread will have a Chance for a NEW Digital Video Camera. Casio Brand 11.3 Mega Pix, Date of Draw TBA (Once your photos are Posted, please opt in the the text messaging by texting NCE to 25827.
POST PHOTO's for Camera Giveaway Separate.
All Voters will also be in a Random Dinner Drawing at the end of Contest. ( voters do not need to enter the contest in anyway except by nominating. ) That means just a POST voting for a Video contest.
We reserve the right to change contest rules if necessary
If your having Trouble Texting the BOT- Text me only personally to add you manually. 480-522-5227
You may enter one Vdieo On Any of these Industry BBS
OK the Contest is Offcially Closed, I was drawing this at the TExas Meeting. Will figure a way to Draw this as soon as all the contestants are process.
We will accept last minute entries only here on PWI 30 minutes prior to draw.
Contest is Closed on all BBS as of 6 PM Pac time April 1
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